Actually, a friend of mine threatened to kick a customer's butt, then turned around and sold him a cell phone... Still haven't figured out how the hell he did that one.
But, I digress.
First off, Saga(or, rather, members of it's team) has pretty much flamed the dickens out of some people here on occasion. Run a search for it.
Second, Pioneer has only been active for about six months(if that), and has accomplished a great deal, in that time. Especially since they're working with an entirely new game engine. I'm half-tempted to call on Howard Day for a new project I'm working on, but I'm wary of overworking the poor guy, as he's the very lifeblood of Pioneer. He's that good.
But, I digress.
First off, Saga(or, rather, members of it's team) has pretty much flamed the dickens out of some people here on occasion. Run a search for it.
Second, Pioneer has only been active for about six months(if that), and has accomplished a great deal, in that time. Especially since they're working with an entirely new game engine. I'm half-tempted to call on Howard Day for a new project I'm working on, but I'm wary of overworking the poor guy, as he's the very lifeblood of Pioneer. He's that good.