Well ok, if you're thinking about shields and armour, since I did not have the figures, I believe you.Originally posted by AzraeL
And mpanty, a Hellcat would whoop a Centurion's pasty white ass any day. It packs over 8 times the firepower, 5 times the armor and much smaller and more manouvreable. The Centurion only feels so much better because it is up against antiquated and underpowered opponents. Against a main fleet Confed or Kilrathi fighter of the same era it wouldn't stand a chance.
Uhm... you're talking about an advanced Centurion... the ones from Righteous Fire? I still had the figures of Privateer in mind...
Also, remember that the 200,000 cred bill for a Centurion is only for the airframe. By the time you've stuck those Tachyons, Level 3 Engine & Shields, advanced radar, repair bot, gun cooler, etc. etc. on it you're significantly higher than that. If you say 1-2mil for a decent Centurion and 50-100mil for a Confed fighter, the comparison is believable.
Originally posted by mpanty
However, I don't think an Hellcat could do more damage than a Centurion: remember that the Centurion bears 4 gun racks, 4 plasmas if you want, even 4 fusion cannons!! And those are simply better than the two lasers and two ions the Hellcat has...
Erm... I must disagree on that general rule, though the figures you give me are most probably true...Originally posted by AzraeL
Nope. Because a military laser does nearly 5x the damage per hit and 7.5x the damage per second of a civilian (privateer) Tachyon.
Originally posted by mpanty
-A Hellcat kicks a Centurion's ass
-A Centurion kicks a Broadsword's ass
Ehm... again, have to disagree...Originally posted by AzraeL
Small correction ...
-A Hellcat kicks a Centurion's ass
-A Centurion kicks a Gemini Sector Broadsword's ass
The Confed & Kilrathi ships are way underpowered in Privateer.
Originally in the CIC Ships Database
Privateer Broadsword:
Guns Mass Drivers (3)
Turret Lasers (2) [2], Particle Cannons (2)
Missile Hardpoints 1x3 HS, 1x6 FF
Front/Rear Shield ??? cm
Front Armor 25 cm
Rear Armor 20 cm
Right/Left Armor 17.5 cm
WC2 Broadsword:
Guns Mass Drivers (3)
Turret Neutron Guns (2) [3], Tractor Beam (1) [3]
Torpedo Hardpoints 4x1
Missile Hardpoints 4x1 FF
Missile Decoys Chaff Pod (1)
Front Shield 18 cm
Rear Shield 18 cm
Front Armor 15 cm
Rear Armor 15 cm
Right/Left Armor 13 cm
That I agree with! The WC3 fighters, from the figures you've provided, would kick the Privateer ships' asses pretty bad, but the Centurion kicks the butt of any WC2 fighter and downwards...
WC Universe explanation -
Gemini is a backwater hole, lightly guarded by the dregs of the Confed fleet. They are equipped with outdated ships & weapons - probably the equivalent of the national guard.
Wha...? No way!! The figures are right under your eyes!! The WC2 Broadsword has a thinner armor than the Privateer Broadsword!! Period!Originally posted by AzraeL
The three mass drivers on a WCII Broadsword give it a damage of nearly 12x a 4xTachyon Centurion.
Who cares? For this case, we're only concerned by absolute figures: the Privateer Broadsword simply has a better armor!
Unfortunately the Privateer stats don't give any comparison between military and civilian shield strengths.
Wha...? All the Confed ships are under military standard!! It's not because they're sending obsolete ships to Gemini that they are also underrated!! That would make Confed look really bad!
The real question is why the Confed ships in Privateer are using the civilian standard weapons instead of the military ones from WC1-IV.
Originally posted by mpanty
Now don't tell me that it has a worse armor but better guns! I won't buy that!
For this case, we're only concerned by absolute figures: the Privateer Broadsword simply has a better armor!
Nein, I still don't buy that!Originally posted by AzraeL
It's simple mathematics.
WC2 Broadsword :
3 Mass Drivers x 45cm damage / 0.3s refire rate = 450cm/s
Priv Centurion :
4 Tachyons x 3.8cm damage / 0.4s refire rate = 38cm/s