WC:CD "Fan Input"
- Thread starter JasonRocZ
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Lt.Overload
Rear Admiral
Not really useless, you know what they say, every missile (or in this case, torp) counts.
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
i don't think so, 2 tbolts can take out combined one triton transport, but only if both torps hit
not a good choice for bombing runs
Triple, I think you may be confusing 2 different loadouts in Secret Ops....One having only 1 Valiant Light Torpedo while the other varient has 4 Valiant Light Torps.
Lt.Overload
Rear Admiral
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
Triple, I don't think I've released any others at the moment.
But...Giving you guys an update after almost a day of messing around with implementing capships. I've finally implemented the Titan class Transport which can be seen on this thread on Page 2. I don't have any screenshots at the moment but I will at some point... (At the Moment it is without the Cargo containers in the mid section....I tried to have them added all as one but the Collision Tree wasn't havin it...The Poly count was ok but for some reason Missiles and bolts would fly through the middle of the model....But the Cargo pieces are an easy add, from reading the info on Killerwaves site...It's just a pain from start to finish. After I add the cargo containers I'll move on to the other random transport that I did back in this thread..http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?t=25364 I have yet to name this Transport tho...But It will be a larger transport than the Titan....Also I added a few Turrets to the Titan.... I actually made it smaller it's about 170 meters in length. But This larger trans...Will be slower....without any defenses. (Civilian Mining/Freighter). Maybe you guys n gals can take a shot at naming this one?
But...Giving you guys an update after almost a day of messing around with implementing capships. I've finally implemented the Titan class Transport which can be seen on this thread on Page 2. I don't have any screenshots at the moment but I will at some point... (At the Moment it is without the Cargo containers in the mid section....I tried to have them added all as one but the Collision Tree wasn't havin it...The Poly count was ok but for some reason Missiles and bolts would fly through the middle of the model....But the Cargo pieces are an easy add, from reading the info on Killerwaves site...It's just a pain from start to finish. After I add the cargo containers I'll move on to the other random transport that I did back in this thread..http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?t=25364 I have yet to name this Transport tho...But It will be a larger transport than the Titan....Also I added a few Turrets to the Titan.... I actually made it smaller it's about 170 meters in length. But This larger trans...Will be slower....without any defenses. (Civilian Mining/Freighter). Maybe you guys n gals can take a shot at naming this one?
ChrisReid
Super Soaker Collector / Administrator
The game doesn't need three playable bombers, but cameo ships are great. Broadswords and Longbows are still around in Arena, and presumably the newer Devastator is still there too.
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
If anyone wants to help in setting up a website I'd be more than happy to work with you! I can do screenshots....Ship art....etc....I don't really know much about HTML stuff wouldn't even know where to host it...At least doing the website would enable me to answer many peoples questions about the mod. Where it is as far as progress....and also what to expect really....I can elaborate more on the story a bit too.
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
At the moment I'm still struggling with doing the capships.....Although I'm able to make Corvette styled ships....Making it a capship for some reason or another is not going so well...and keep getting errors when putting it into the game 
When making capship do you necessarily need ALL the components? Can you just have the bridge or just have engines...etc...does it need all of them? The base mesh is fine...and your able to use that as a corvette but when making the capship files with constituent parts I keep getting a crash.... the only parts I added were the cargo pods....which have destroyed and nondestroyed models I'll attach the file as follows and if anyone knows what's wrong please help! I've been spending nights on this and nothing is going.... The "Titan" is the base mesh... "Tcargo" is the cargo mesh and "TcargoD" is the destroyed Tcargo mesh....All 3 have been implemented as corvettes so they have collision trees. Anyone?
IFF "C:\Secret Ops\ships\TitanB.IFF"
{
FORM "CAPS"
{
FORM "VERI"
{
CHUNK "SPAC"
{
long 11
}
CHUNK "CAPS"
{
long 27
}
CHUNK "FRMA"
{
long 15
}
CHUNK "EXPL"
{
long 31
}
CHUNK "SOND"
{
long 233
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 23
}
CHUNK "MISL"
{
long 33
}
}
CHUNK "TYPE"
{
long 5
long 11
long 0
}
CHUNK "BASE"
{
cstring "Titan"
}
CHUNK "PHYS"
{
float 2000000.0 //mass
}
CHUNK "POWR"
{
float 100.0
long 0
}
FORM "PSYS"
{
FORM "ENGN"
{
CHUNK "POWR"
{
float 100.0
float 0.0
float 300.0
float 300.0 //speed max
float 300.0 //speed std
float 300.0 //speed min
}
CHUNK "DATA"
{
float 75.0 //acceleration
float 100.0 //afterb. speed
float 120.0 //afterb. acceleration
float 0.0 //afterb. fuel
float 5.0 //Y
float 5.0 //P
float 10.0 //R
float 7.0 //YPR rate of change
}
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_01_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_02_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_03_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_04_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_05_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_06_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
}
FORM "TLST"
{
FORM "GTUR"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "turret_01_leatr01"//hardpoint
cstring "leatr01" //mesh
cstring "" //destroyed mesh
float 100.0 //hitpoints
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 21
}
FORM "FIXD"
{
CHUNK "CONE"
{
float 80.0
}
CHUNK "BARL"
{
cstring "aturgunt"
}
}
}
FORM "GTUR"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "turret_02_leatr02"//hardpoint
cstring "leatr02" //mesh
cstring "" //destroyed mesh
float 100.0 //hitpoints
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 21
}
FORM "FIXD"
{
CHUNK "CONE"
{
float 80.0
}
CHUNK "BARL"
{
cstring "aturgunt"
}
}
}
FORM "GTUR"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "turret_03_leatr03"//hardpoint
cstring "leatr03" //mesh
cstring "" //destroyed mesh
float 100.0 //hitpoints
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 21
}
FORM "FIXD"
{
CHUNK "CONE"
{
float 60.0
}
CHUNK "BARL"
{
cstring "aturgunt"
}
}
}
}
FORM "EXPL"
{
CHUNK "TYPE"
{
long 0
long 4
long 14
}
CHUNK "CHLD"
{
long 0
long 11
long 1
long 11
long 2
long 12
long 4
long 10
}
}
}
When making capship do you necessarily need ALL the components? Can you just have the bridge or just have engines...etc...does it need all of them? The base mesh is fine...and your able to use that as a corvette but when making the capship files with constituent parts I keep getting a crash.... the only parts I added were the cargo pods....which have destroyed and nondestroyed models I'll attach the file as follows and if anyone knows what's wrong please help! I've been spending nights on this and nothing is going.... The "Titan" is the base mesh... "Tcargo" is the cargo mesh and "TcargoD" is the destroyed Tcargo mesh....All 3 have been implemented as corvettes so they have collision trees. Anyone?
IFF "C:\Secret Ops\ships\TitanB.IFF"
{
FORM "CAPS"
{
FORM "VERI"
{
CHUNK "SPAC"
{
long 11
}
CHUNK "CAPS"
{
long 27
}
CHUNK "FRMA"
{
long 15
}
CHUNK "EXPL"
{
long 31
}
CHUNK "SOND"
{
long 233
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 23
}
CHUNK "MISL"
{
long 33
}
}
CHUNK "TYPE"
{
long 5
long 11
long 0
}
CHUNK "BASE"
{
cstring "Titan"
}
CHUNK "PHYS"
{
float 2000000.0 //mass
}
CHUNK "POWR"
{
float 100.0
long 0
}
FORM "PSYS"
{
FORM "ENGN"
{
CHUNK "POWR"
{
float 100.0
float 0.0
float 300.0
float 300.0 //speed max
float 300.0 //speed std
float 300.0 //speed min
}
CHUNK "DATA"
{
float 75.0 //acceleration
float 100.0 //afterb. speed
float 120.0 //afterb. acceleration
float 0.0 //afterb. fuel
float 5.0 //Y
float 5.0 //P
float 10.0 //R
float 7.0 //YPR rate of change
}
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_01_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_02_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_03_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_04_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_05_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
FORM "CRGO"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "cargo_06_Titan"
cstring "Tcargo"
cstring "Tcargod"
float 500.0
}
}
}
FORM "TLST"
{
FORM "GTUR"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "turret_01_leatr01"//hardpoint
cstring "leatr01" //mesh
cstring "" //destroyed mesh
float 100.0 //hitpoints
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 21
}
FORM "FIXD"
{
CHUNK "CONE"
{
float 80.0
}
CHUNK "BARL"
{
cstring "aturgunt"
}
}
}
FORM "GTUR"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "turret_02_leatr02"//hardpoint
cstring "leatr02" //mesh
cstring "" //destroyed mesh
float 100.0 //hitpoints
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 21
}
FORM "FIXD"
{
CHUNK "CONE"
{
float 80.0
}
CHUNK "BARL"
{
cstring "aturgunt"
}
}
}
FORM "GTUR"
{
CHUNK "DATA"
{
cstring "turret_03_leatr03"//hardpoint
cstring "leatr03" //mesh
cstring "" //destroyed mesh
float 100.0 //hitpoints
}
CHUNK "BULL"
{
long 21
}
FORM "FIXD"
{
CHUNK "CONE"
{
float 60.0
}
CHUNK "BARL"
{
cstring "aturgunt"
}
}
}
}
FORM "EXPL"
{
CHUNK "TYPE"
{
long 0
long 4
long 14
}
CHUNK "CHLD"
{
long 0
long 11
long 1
long 11
long 2
long 12
long 4
long 10
}
}
}
frostytheplebe
Seventh Part of the Seal
ChrisReid
Super Soaker Collector / Administrator
No turret on the Longbow? You've clearly modified the engines and replaced the center window with a big exhaust. Will it not have a rear gun?
frostytheplebe
Seventh Part of the Seal
It doesn't look like it. This is my own opinion, so feel free to disregard it, but that bomber looked better the way you originally had it in the screen shots, with the four thrusters instead of one big one. Plus it's just making the longbow even crapier without a turret. Perhaps you could put one of the dorsal, but it would have a lot of blind spots.
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
I'm revisting this one...and yes no rear (manned) turret on the Longbow..(Similar to what you see in the Arena screenshot).....
I've been totally revisiting the model and the textures... For one I wasn't happy with those X type wings at all....Something with the model was messed up so I i've come back to redoing them...Also a few model modification details on the fuselage were left out..since my last post of some renders.. (I wasn't happy with it either, and haven't been happy with the Longbow for some reason) There's many reasons I should scrap it totally and just leave it out...but I haven't the heart to.... I'll keep ya posted within the next day or 2 on the progress model..textures..renders/shots...Armament...etc...
ChrisReid
Super Soaker Collector / Administrator
Does it? Kinda hard to tell...
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
Yea it's like a lil yellow...thing.... I assume it's some type of exhaust or engine...although the Longbow looks like it was Re-Modeled for the Arena Game it's possible the artist thought that the longbow was backwords because of the rear turret? I have no clue really...
But anyhow I redid the wings....and some of the textures...I also remodeled the Neutron guns on the top.. Let me know what you think
Let me know about the color too....I changed it to purple as something different...Maybe pink or turquoise? I do dig the yellow...But I'm just looking for somethin a lil different...(Not really seen in WC all that often)
But anyhow I redid the wings....and some of the textures...I also remodeled the Neutron guns on the top.. Let me know what you think
Let me know about the color too....I changed it to purple as something different...Maybe pink or turquoise? I do dig the yellow...But I'm just looking for somethin a lil different...(Not really seen in WC all that often)Attachments
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
Here's an updated texture scheme (I kinda dig the Yellow) and it looks something that is a closer to the original.... Also I had the wings at the wrong angle which I fixed (the best I could I guess) Sometimes the smallest changes make a big difference..... Also I optimized the model which I didn't before so the proper shading is implemented. Check it out.. Questions?...Comments?
Attachments
JasonRocZ
Vice Admiral
Also some changes in the character names,description, etc...
Jack "Reaper" Burrows (Player - Revenge pilot)
Age: 27
- Born on Aries II, In the Foshko Quadrant. Jack spent much of his childhood far away from the heartaches of war. He joined Confed in 2679 and graduated the academy in 2681, He was supposed to be stationed on the TCS Midway on her maiden voyage, but instead was stationed on Perry Navel base before the initial Nephilim encounter. On a patrol he violated a direct order to fire on a transport full of about 50 Kilrathi refuges from the Ragitagha clan. After a misunderstanding by his Wing Commander saying that the “....Kilrathi deserve to die! refuges or not!”. Jack saved the transport by Leeching his Wing Commanders ship and transporting the survivors to a local pirate base. After this incident Jack stole a Confed Arrow fighter and fled to a nearby pirate base, this is where he met Damon Karnes and joined the Revenge. Two of the liberated Kilrathi (both littermates), joined Jack and are in debt to him. His copilots over the last five years have nicknamed him Reaper for painting the Revenge symbol on the Fuselage...and even with a borrowed SpaceCoat Painter model year 2655 Droid still took almost a month.
Damon “Polecat" Karnes (Captain of the Revenge)
Age: 57
- A former Confed pilot and then Secret Operative starting his Confed service in 2647. He moved up to be infamous as a Wing Commander and was considered a hero he was also at the First Battle of Repleetah in 2654... At Repleetah his craft had gone down onto the planet.... With a kilrathi carrier force blockading the planet, Damon had turned to helping the marine ground forces. He was given his callsign by the Marines on Repleetah by Impelling a Kilrathi with a Confederation Flagpole. He was in many of Confeds largest pushes early in the war. He is an expert on hand to hand combat, and also enemy tactics. After being a Confed pilot He then turned into a Secret Operative working for Confed in remote systems or cargo shipping lines in order to listen and give Confed info on comm traffic, Many Terrans had thought he was a pirate at this time, and was thought dead when he ejected during a Kilrathi attack at the Pirate base Tortuga in System M421A. He spent the rest of his Operative Confed career on numerous Secret Tolwyn projects. Then with the Kilrathi War ending he turned to Mercenary and Privateering work.
He likes to stay low on many large scale engagements so as not to draw attention to the Revenge and her crew, unless there is a large pay out. He won the Revenge in a bet using Jack’s stripped down Arrow for an annual race around the speed coarse of Callisto. Damon is trained as an elite, He keeps the Revenge in top shape with many weapons and technologies that non-military are not supposed to have obtained. He Believes there are those who fly to get somewhere and those who love to fly.
Lisa "Bravo" Deleon (Revenge Merc Pilot)
Age: 29
- A former Border world militia fighter then Confed pilot that served on board the Midway. She hails from Vohaul in the Polaris system. She resigned from Confed after an accidental friendly fire incident. She normally flies alone taking missions as they come. Is normally calm and collected but when enraged has a twitchy trigger finger. Is a reliable part of the team she always accomplishes what she sets out to do.
Kuklext "Motley" Ragitagha (Revenge Merc pilot)
Age: 39 (Human Years)
- One of the coolest Cats you will ever meet. Motley likes to indulge in many human activities…Drinking, listening to music, different foods, anything that he can get his paws on of human culture he is definitely open minded. He and his brother are in debt to Jack for saving there families lives. Motley has grown close to much of the crew, and is always someone easy to talk to.
Meltok "Carnage" Ragitagha (Revenge Merc Pilot)
Age: 39 (Human Years)
- The total opposite of his feline litter mate. Meltok, is very reserved and stays away from much of the crew, he’s bound by many Kilrathi honor codes. But he realizes to get along with the crew is only beneficial to him and his brother. He took an oath to be in Jack’s debt. He is a beautiful pilot although sometimes careless, you occasionally hear him laughing as he’s taking down his pray as if he enjoys the Carnage.
Morgon "T-Bone" Crow (Revenge Merc Pilot)
Age: 38
- Often referred to as MC or even T, was a Confed pilot up until his resignation. He lost his home to the Nephilim Virus. He was not able to return to his home planet of Angora in the Astoria system due to restrictions that Confed had placed on his planet. His family has been presumed lost. Morgon gets his callsign in a desperate attempt to take out a pirate fighter, with his ship very damaged he decided to eject as his ship rammed the Pirate Talon fighter.
Jack "Reaper" Burrows (Player - Revenge pilot)
Age: 27
- Born on Aries II, In the Foshko Quadrant. Jack spent much of his childhood far away from the heartaches of war. He joined Confed in 2679 and graduated the academy in 2681, He was supposed to be stationed on the TCS Midway on her maiden voyage, but instead was stationed on Perry Navel base before the initial Nephilim encounter. On a patrol he violated a direct order to fire on a transport full of about 50 Kilrathi refuges from the Ragitagha clan. After a misunderstanding by his Wing Commander saying that the “....Kilrathi deserve to die! refuges or not!”. Jack saved the transport by Leeching his Wing Commanders ship and transporting the survivors to a local pirate base. After this incident Jack stole a Confed Arrow fighter and fled to a nearby pirate base, this is where he met Damon Karnes and joined the Revenge. Two of the liberated Kilrathi (both littermates), joined Jack and are in debt to him. His copilots over the last five years have nicknamed him Reaper for painting the Revenge symbol on the Fuselage...and even with a borrowed SpaceCoat Painter model year 2655 Droid still took almost a month.
Damon “Polecat" Karnes (Captain of the Revenge)
Age: 57
- A former Confed pilot and then Secret Operative starting his Confed service in 2647. He moved up to be infamous as a Wing Commander and was considered a hero he was also at the First Battle of Repleetah in 2654... At Repleetah his craft had gone down onto the planet.... With a kilrathi carrier force blockading the planet, Damon had turned to helping the marine ground forces. He was given his callsign by the Marines on Repleetah by Impelling a Kilrathi with a Confederation Flagpole. He was in many of Confeds largest pushes early in the war. He is an expert on hand to hand combat, and also enemy tactics. After being a Confed pilot He then turned into a Secret Operative working for Confed in remote systems or cargo shipping lines in order to listen and give Confed info on comm traffic, Many Terrans had thought he was a pirate at this time, and was thought dead when he ejected during a Kilrathi attack at the Pirate base Tortuga in System M421A. He spent the rest of his Operative Confed career on numerous Secret Tolwyn projects. Then with the Kilrathi War ending he turned to Mercenary and Privateering work.
He likes to stay low on many large scale engagements so as not to draw attention to the Revenge and her crew, unless there is a large pay out. He won the Revenge in a bet using Jack’s stripped down Arrow for an annual race around the speed coarse of Callisto. Damon is trained as an elite, He keeps the Revenge in top shape with many weapons and technologies that non-military are not supposed to have obtained. He Believes there are those who fly to get somewhere and those who love to fly.
Lisa "Bravo" Deleon (Revenge Merc Pilot)
Age: 29
- A former Border world militia fighter then Confed pilot that served on board the Midway. She hails from Vohaul in the Polaris system. She resigned from Confed after an accidental friendly fire incident. She normally flies alone taking missions as they come. Is normally calm and collected but when enraged has a twitchy trigger finger. Is a reliable part of the team she always accomplishes what she sets out to do.
Kuklext "Motley" Ragitagha (Revenge Merc pilot)
Age: 39 (Human Years)
- One of the coolest Cats you will ever meet. Motley likes to indulge in many human activities…Drinking, listening to music, different foods, anything that he can get his paws on of human culture he is definitely open minded. He and his brother are in debt to Jack for saving there families lives. Motley has grown close to much of the crew, and is always someone easy to talk to.
Meltok "Carnage" Ragitagha (Revenge Merc Pilot)
Age: 39 (Human Years)
- The total opposite of his feline litter mate. Meltok, is very reserved and stays away from much of the crew, he’s bound by many Kilrathi honor codes. But he realizes to get along with the crew is only beneficial to him and his brother. He took an oath to be in Jack’s debt. He is a beautiful pilot although sometimes careless, you occasionally hear him laughing as he’s taking down his pray as if he enjoys the Carnage.
Morgon "T-Bone" Crow (Revenge Merc Pilot)
Age: 38
- Often referred to as MC or even T, was a Confed pilot up until his resignation. He lost his home to the Nephilim Virus. He was not able to return to his home planet of Angora in the Astoria system due to restrictions that Confed had placed on his planet. His family has been presumed lost. Morgon gets his callsign in a desperate attempt to take out a pirate fighter, with his ship very damaged he decided to eject as his ship rammed the Pirate Talon fighter.