Bitterman
Commodore
it is a common issue due to windows certification and the antivirus giving false positives, just give permission.
Wing Loader (KS/WCDX) Loader & Voice Over Mod
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Destro
2nd Lieutenant
Hey @Bitterman I've done some testing with the latest dgvoodoo2 build. It works great. I had some small issues with getting it play nicely with Wing Loader and the HD videos but I found switching the resolution under the DirectX setting to "Desktop" and insuring that "Application controlled Fullscreen" is selected allowed the videos to work. There were only a few small things I noticed.
1) After an HD video plays it would not return focus to the game. I made some code in Wing Loader to force a re-focus to WC3 and this seemed to do the trick. Shouldn't be an issue in real world applications aside from Wing Loader.
2) It does show the main desktop window for a frame before playing the videos which is not present using DDraw. I believe this is due to it using true fullscreen. (I'm assuming) It shows the desktop first when a new window is created. I didn't see a borderless fullscreen option to test and Window->Streched was worse and with Windows Scaling caused scaling issues. But when does Windows Scaling ever work properly, right? lol Again, only really Wing Loader specific.
Other than that the game ran buttery smooth for me and I didn't see any black screen issues or anything major.
On an unrelated note. I fixed the memory leek that causes memory bloat when reloading scripts. Pointer returns through functions were the culprit. Also, I was finally able to get .MP4's to play inside Wing Loader with audio! It needs some optimization and videos will not close by itself when they are complete, but I'm finally not relying on .OGV converts of ODVS videos. Got tired of fighting deprecation with ffmpeg and started using libVLC. So yay!
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Bitterman
Commodore
send those to dege at the forum, would be nice to test even with WC4
Also, see if its possible to inject texture filtering and msaa into WC3 by using the ddraw fork since the tool permits it
Darkmatter
Rear Admiral
This is amazing stuff! Really, really cool!
I would have to offer 2 small critiques, which of course, as the devs, you can point and laugh at my if you want.
1. I found voice over the Blairs personal thoughts a bit unusual. Maybe it wouldn't feel that way if the vol on it was turned down? My initial thought was to remove that sound file, but lowering the vol may work just as well.
2. The whole Hotshot thing. As these are zero profit mods I doubt there would be an issue if a custom AI program from github was used to sample a characters voice to allow for my options, such as, being able to voice a players call sign.
3. OK, now I'm nit picking, but I find Angles deep voice a bit unusual. I'd have to hear the WC2 audio to compare. Thankfully this is actually a pretty easy fix in an audio program like Audacity, if the dev's are so inclined. I suppose it be a option that you add to the command line when you boot up the game.
Even if all 3 of my thoughts are 100% rejected, it still doesn't diminish in my mind the amazing work you guys have been doing here.
Nicely done!
I would have to offer 2 small critiques, which of course, as the devs, you can point and laugh at my if you want.
1. I found voice over the Blairs personal thoughts a bit unusual. Maybe it wouldn't feel that way if the vol on it was turned down? My initial thought was to remove that sound file, but lowering the vol may work just as well.
2. The whole Hotshot thing. As these are zero profit mods I doubt there would be an issue if a custom AI program from github was used to sample a characters voice to allow for my options, such as, being able to voice a players call sign.
3. OK, now I'm nit picking, but I find Angles deep voice a bit unusual. I'd have to hear the WC2 audio to compare. Thankfully this is actually a pretty easy fix in an audio program like Audacity, if the dev's are so inclined. I suppose it be a option that you add to the command line when you boot up the game.
Even if all 3 of my thoughts are 100% rejected, it still doesn't diminish in my mind the amazing work you guys have been doing here.
Nicely done!
Destro
2nd Lieutenant
Thanks @Darkmatter. Nothing to laugh at, I love to hear other opinions and thoughts.This is amazing stuff! Really, really cool!
I would have to offer 2 small critiques, which of course, as the devs, you can point and laugh at my if you want.
1. I found voice over the Blairs personal thoughts a bit unusual. Maybe it wouldn't feel that way if the vol on it was turned down? My initial thought was to remove that sound file, but lowering the vol may work just as well.
2. The whole Hotshot thing. As these are zero profit mods I doubt there would be an issue if a custom AI program from github was used to sample a characters voice to allow for my options, such as, being able to voice a players call sign.
3. OK, now I'm nit picking, but I find Angles deep voice a bit unusual. I'd have to hear the WC2 audio to compare. Thankfully this is actually a pretty easy fix in an audio program like Audacity, if the dev's are so inclined. I suppose it be a option that you add to the command line when you boot up the game.
Even if all 3 of my thoughts are 100% rejected, it still doesn't diminish in my mind the amazing work you guys have been doing here.
Nicely done!
I agree with Blair's personal thoughts. Sometimes I feel they are not needed, specifically during bar conversations. The audio was taken directly from the SagaCD with little modifications, except for the in flight coms as they were so low quality I needed to compress and normalize several times to make them passable. Lowering the level a bit might be interesting. I'll do some test's when I can.
I never liked the callsign Hotshot. I did have a grand vision of re recording all the voice overs using Maverick but that's a huge task that requires voice actors and as a one man developer I decided to put that on hold for now... AI might be something special for that though
I was also planning to have the Super Wing Commander voices as an option... But they are really bad and stick out like a sore thumb, still open to the option, but not top of my list. Angel's deep voice. I would be open to shifting her pitch down, but to be honest her voice doesn't bother me too much. But if it sounds good I wouldn't have a problem with that being an option.
I'm glad you enjoyed Wing Loader. New ideas and thoughts are always welcome as there is always more to do and I hope to bring a lot more to the table once I'm done adding the WC3 HD videos to the game.
Cheers!
ChrisReid
Super Soaker Collector / Administrator
Playing with things like volume for narration could be interesting, but one of the beautiful things about this mod is it doesn't just add voiceovers - it adds the authentic original voiceovers from one official version of the game to another. That's really neat.
Darkmatter
Rear Admiral
True. While it's hard to argue with "well, that's the official deal there." The only reason I even brought it up is because you guys have been pushing past official stuff (in the best kind of ways) and was thinking that her voice sounded low compared to WC3 definitely, as they use a real actor, but isn't it lower then WC2 Angle? I don't even remember because it's been so long.
I guess I was thinking about the 3 games as a whole. If it's been modded, should the voices be moved closer to a more standardized sound? Obviously they aren't going to be identical, and that's actually normal for peoples voices to change over time. I just found the deep Angel voice a bit jarring. Just my humble personal opinion.
I usually like to replay the games every few years, but life just gets more and more busy. :/
I guess I was thinking about the 3 games as a whole. If it's been modded, should the voices be moved closer to a more standardized sound? Obviously they aren't going to be identical, and that's actually normal for peoples voices to change over time. I just found the deep Angel voice a bit jarring. Just my humble personal opinion.
I usually like to replay the games every few years, but life just gets more and more busy. :/
Destro
2nd Lieutenant
I personally don't think it's that awful, just doesn't fit. They are super compressed and hollow sounding and they just don't fit with the colorfull presentation of the original game.
This, I agree with. But Super Wing Commander has a completely different look at it fits there.
Darkmatter
Rear Admiral
Thanks for the kind words.Thanks @Darkmatter. Nothing to laugh at, I love to hear other opinions and thoughts.
I agree with Blair's personal thoughts. Sometimes I feel they are not needed, specifically during bar conversations. The audio was taken directly from the SagaCD with little modifications, except for the in flight coms as they were so low quality I needed to compress and normalize several times to make them passable. Lowering the level a bit might be interesting. I'll do some test's when I can.
I never liked the callsign Hotshot. I did have a grand vision of re recording all the voice overs using Maverick but that's a huge task that requires voice actors and as a one man developer I decided to put that on hold for now... AI might be something special for that though
Angel's deep voice. I would be open to shifting her pitch down, but to be honest her voice doesn't bother me too much. But if it sounds good I wouldn't have a problem with that being an option.
I'm glad you enjoyed Wing Loader. New ideas and thoughts are always welcome as there is always more to do and I hope to bring a lot more to the table once I'm done adding the WC3 HD videos to the game.
What about the voice audio used in WC2 for in flight coms? There would be gaps of course, but a several pilots from WC1 appear in WC2. For those that didn't, if the Super Wing Commander voices aren't worth using, I think any alternative would work since we don't really have any canon baseline to start from anyways.
Destro
2nd Lieutenant
No problem.Thanks for the kind words.
What about the voice audio used in WC2 for in flight coms? There would be gaps of course, but a several pilots from WC1 appear in WC2. For those that didn't, if the Super Wing Commander voices aren't worth using, I think any alternative would work since we don't really have any canon baseline to start from anyways.
I do have a plan to remove the speech files from WC2 so that it only appears as text. If I recall, there is a speech file that, if deleted, reverts the game to text only mode. Then I could use Wing Loader to replace all voices. Haven't tested this in years but I did get it working about 15 years ago.
Maybe sampling voices from WC3 and then missing characters from WC2 or WC1 could make a nice bridge between two worlds using AI? I'll put some thought into it. Also I'm not apposed to adding Super Wing Commander voices as an option regardless. It would allow me to at least get the scripts from SM1 and 1.5 done. After I get WC3 videos working, that will probably be my next task. Still have a few issues to work out on that task though.
Darkmatter
Rear Admiral
Actually, what I meant was, you could use voices from WC2 in WC1.No problem.
I do have a plan to remove the speech files from WC2 so that it only appears as text. If I recall, there is a speech file that, if deleted, reverts the game to text only mode. Then I could use Wing Loader to replace all voices. Haven't tested this in years but I did get it working about 15 years ago.
Also I'm not apposed to adding Super Wing Commander voices as an option regardless. It would allow me to at least get the scripts from SM1 and 1.5 done. After I get WC3 videos working, that will probably be my next task. Still have a few issues to work out on that task though.
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
You can stop the voiceovers in the intro by just not setting up the digital sound to soundblaster. If it's set to a card not capable of digital speech like an adlib it should just show you the subtitlesNo problem.
I do have a plan to remove the speech files from WC2 so that it only appears as text. If I recall, there is a speech file that, if deleted, reverts the game to text only mode. Then I could use Wing Loader to replace all voices. Haven't tested this in years but I did get it working about 15 years ago.
Also I'm not apposed to adding Super Wing Commander voices as an option regardless. It would allow me to at least get the scripts from SM1 and 1.5 done. After I get WC3 videos working, that will probably be my next task. Still have a few issues to work out on that task though.
Destro
2nd Lieutenant
Ah, I see. Might fill in some blanks in the secret missions coms.
Destro
2nd Lieutenant
Hey Salk!
Posting here is fine.
I've got a few things planned for a new release. Currently I'm working on some memory fixes, better camera code to fix some jumpy issues I've seen online.- A few changes to the Scripting to make reading it easier.
- Added in Imgui support and making preferences so users can switch features on and off, including running the dos versions from inside Wing Loader. (Expirmenting with Voice Overs in DosBox but I don't know if it is possible due to how DosBox assignees memory addresses.)
- Adding the Origin Orchestra intro to WC1 and WC2
- Fixed a few missing voice overs in WC1 script.
In regards to Wing Commander 3
- True MP4 support is now up and running using libvlc. No need to convert ODVS videos and can now run the natively.
- Found some flags for cockpit textures that let me run the correct Pre flight sequence.
I'm still on the hunt for mission flags for Win, Lose, objectives and so on. Need these for dialogue that starts different depending on how you flew your mission. Ex: Cobra after mission 1. Hobbs works fine because it always starts the same.
I'm back to full time work so progress is a bit slow but I'm hoping to have a new version out soon and maybe include a WC3 HD video demo with it.
Any ideas for new features are always welcome but thanks for checking in.
Pedro
Admiral
Hey Salk!
Posting here is fine.
- A few changes to the Scripting to make reading it easier.
- Added in Imgui support and making preferences so users can switch features on and off, including running the dos versions from inside Wing Loader. (Expirmenting with Voice Overs in DosBox but I don't know if it is possible due to how DosBox assignees memory addresses.)
- Adding the Origin Orchestra intro to WC1 and WC2
- Fixed a few missing voice overs in WC1 script.
In regards to Wing Commander 3
- True MP4 support is now up and running using libvlc. No need to convert ODVS videos and can now run the natively.
- Found some flags for cockpit textures that let me run the correct Pre flight sequence.
I'm still on the hunt for mission flags for Win, Lose, objectives and so on. Need these for dialogue that starts different depending on how you flew your mission. Ex: Cobra after mission 1. Hobbs works fine because it always starts the same.
I'm back to full time work so progress is a bit slow but I'm hoping to have a new version out soon and maybe include a WC3 HD video demo with it.
Any ideas for new features are always welcome but thanks for checking in.
I would think you'd intercept the script command to play a movie and check the data.
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But if you'd like to collaborate on register uses I can share our doc. I don't think there's any overlap in wc4 on the flags (but mission success is in the regs and seems the same in both games)