The Matrix Revolutions
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Mav23 said:
LOL. OMG - you are right ;-)
LeHah said:
But not from the material that is provided in the movie alone. If you watch the far worse 2010, then yes you'll get 2001.
LeHah said:
I never said I disliked Reloaded. I actually would completely agree to all points you brough up with Revolutions if you had talked about Reloaded. The depth was there, but sometimes hard to see. Too hard for many as it seems, because it had so many people complaining about the lack of depth as well. My only problem with Reloaded was that it was badly paced ("30 mins boredom, then 2 hours matrix action without time to berath"). Now if they had put Reloaded and Revolutions together and cut it differently that could have improved the whole thing tremendously (basically give Reloaded more real world scenes and Revolutions more matrix scenes).
LeHah said:
The opposite. I am not stupid enough to just say "aaaah big bangs - cool movie - drool". And I still have to see one single post on any Matrix related discussion that talks about anything I didn't get when watching the movie besides eastereggs.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
I think 2001 is, in Wing Commander terminology, a Scimitar Situation - everyone says it makes no sense, so everyone assumes it makes no sense.
You can figure out the ending to 2001 without even watching to the psychadelic hippy stuff... since the movie is three identical segments.
You can figure out the ending to 2001 without even watching to the psychadelic hippy stuff... since the movie is three identical segments.
dextorboot
Spaceman
I get 2001 and Reloaded, but I still don't like either of them. To be honest, the first time I saw 2001 I didn't get it, but after watching it another time and reading the book I was able to put it all together. Still, I don't like it.
Delance
Victory, you say?
One can understand Revolutions and 2001 and still don't like them.
What is really annoyng is that "Ohh you don't like __________ because you didn't understand how great it was" kind of argumentation.
Specially when it's so common for people to enjoy movies that they don't really understand.
What is really annoyng is that "Ohh you don't like __________ because you didn't understand how great it was" kind of argumentation.
Specially when it's so common for people to enjoy movies that they don't really understand.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
That doesn't sit right with me - given that the book was adapted from the script and not vice versa. Are you sure you're not thinking of removing the Discovery's nuclear-explosion-powered drive to prevent confusing the audience?
LeHah
212 Squadron - "The Old Man's Eyes And Ears"
No, it was something Kubrick and Clarke apparently didn't agree on.
"The screenplay was written primarily by Kubrick and the novel primarily by Clarke, each working simultaneously and also providing feedback to the other. As the story went through many revisions, changes in the novel were taken over into the screenplay and vice versa. It was also unclear whether film or novel would be released first; in the end it was the film. Kubrick was to have been credited as second author of the novel, but in the end was not. It is believed that Kubrick deliberately withheld his approval of the novel as to not hurt the release of the film."
-Taken from IMDB with a grain of salt
"The screenplay was written primarily by Kubrick and the novel primarily by Clarke, each working simultaneously and also providing feedback to the other. As the story went through many revisions, changes in the novel were taken over into the screenplay and vice versa. It was also unclear whether film or novel would be released first; in the end it was the film. Kubrick was to have been credited as second author of the novel, but in the end was not. It is believed that Kubrick deliberately withheld his approval of the novel as to not hurt the release of the film."
-Taken from IMDB with a grain of salt
ChanceKell
Rear Admiral
If you guys are interested in 2001 movie/book trivia, Clarke did a book entitled "Lost Worlds of 2001" back in the 70s, which is a chronicle of making the book and the movie at the same time. It's hard to find, but you can see snippets on 2001 fan sites.
MaximusCrimson
Spaceman
I thought all 3 matrixs were awsome , after watching all three the first
one seemed the worst out of all of them with two and three pretty much
tieing it up for awsomeness
The action was incredible in 2 and 3 especially the Zion fight and the last
fight with Smith and Neo was stunning
well thats my spiel
lates boys
one seemed the worst out of all of them with two and three pretty much
tieing it up for awsomeness
The action was incredible in 2 and 3 especially the Zion fight and the last
fight with Smith and Neo was stunning
well thats my spiel
lates boys
dextorboot
Spaceman
LeHah said:
The ending to a movie isn't always the confusing part. For me at least, it's easier to "get" an ending if you can get the rest of a movie.
ChanceKell
Rear Admiral
Mav23 said:
...Are you bringing Jurassic Park III into the mix?
Colonel Sanders
Spaceman
ewll, this thread is encouraging me to say some pretty stupid things, but fortunately, my girlfriend has volunteered to stand behind me with a baseball bat as a form of stupid-guard.
Moving right along, I saw it for the first time sober. I saw it for the second time so drunk I had to be half-carried into the theatre...I was nearly incapable of walking without assistance. Both times I wanted to stand up during the Smith-Neo fight and yell, "Go Goku! Kick Cell's Ass!"
(I don't know anything about DBZ, so if the character names are wrong, I don't care. but thanks for noticing!)
Moving right along, I saw it for the first time sober. I saw it for the second time so drunk I had to be half-carried into the theatre...I was nearly incapable of walking without assistance. Both times I wanted to stand up during the Smith-Neo fight and yell, "Go Goku! Kick Cell's Ass!"
(I don't know anything about DBZ, so if the character names are wrong, I don't care. but thanks for noticing!
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