Edfilho said:I'm impressed by the screenshots, he remade every single piece of furniture AND the corresponding textures. Nah, I'm too scared of Jack Torrance to do that.
Edfilho said:BTW, concerning your declaration on top of the page, did you like matrix revolution?
Edfilho said:I got the impression that they couldn't figure how to end the plot. They got trapped in their own setup. It is the old "oops, the enemy is so freaking powerfull that we can write a decent way out of the trouble for the heroes".
Edfilho said:Oh, I'm not questioning that. It is just that the resolution of the whole thing is deeply unsatisfying. When the first movie ends, we're left expecting a war, expecting that Neo would make the machines fear.
Edfilho said:then we get an uneasy truce where the machines refrain from crushing puny hu-mans because neo can beat the hell out of Smith. Which he doesn't.
Edfilho said:And there is a pretty rainbow.
Edfilho said:What is to stop the machines from restarting everything?
Edfilho said:it is like Return of the Jedi ended with the emperor granting Dantooinne for the rebels to live, while he remains the great poobah.
Yeah, the problem wasn't that the heroes died, it is that they got a pyhrryc (sp?) victory, at best. They geve their lifes for little.LeHah said:I agree on the disappointing aspect. While I appreciate the fact that the third movie has the gall to beat the crap out of its main characters and kill two of them, it still was unsatisfactory.
Ok, fine. But it is a diversion. Screw Smith, I wanna see the matrix die. They fought most of the time against the machine society, then they go "oh, cool, let's be friends, smith is bad". and the whole war is forgotten.The interpretation I got was that Neo chose to surrender to Smith and when he was over-written, the Matrix or whatever was finally able to lock in on Smith and delete him from the program.
Well, i know next to nothing about it too.As for the truce, its a great idea if you see what it created in (the supposedly dreadful) Matrix Online game but as it is in the film, I'm forced to agree.
that surely wasn't my pointomg neo is teh fagot LOLZ
makes sense.The fact that the Matrix sequels didn't do nearly as well publicly as expected.
Ugh. If I keep picturing that, I'll throw up.Shamefully, horribly - Dark Horse Comics did a "Star Wars Infinite" series which is an "alternate" telling of the original trilogy. Let me put it to you this way: ROTJ ends with Vader turning back to the light side and wearing a WHITE version of his armor.
LeHah said:Shamefully, horribly - Dark Horse Comics did a "Star Wars Infinite" series which is an "alternate" telling of the original trilogy. Let me put it to you this way: ROTJ ends with Vader turning back to the light side and wearing a WHITE version of his armor.
Edfilho said:Ok, fine. But it is a diversion. Screw Smith, I wanna see the matrix die. They fought most of the time against the machine society, then they go "oh, cool, let's be friends, smith is bad". and the whole war is forgotten.
Edfilho said:Well, i know next to nothing about it too.
Edfilho said:then we get an uneasy truce where the machines refrain from crushing puny hu-mans because neo can beat the hell out of Smith. Which he doesn't. And there is a pretty rainbow.
What is to stop the machines from restarting everything?
it is like Return of the Jedi ended with the emperor granting Dantooinne for the rebels to live, while he remains the great poobah.
This is very obviously answered by the architect, saying that Neo and Smith are two opposite sides of an equation needed to fool the people into accepting the matrix. Thats why both of them are immortal untill you can kill both at exactly the same time (hey yr12 level maths actually does have a use in real life )The interpretation I got was that Neo chose to surrender to Smith and when he was over-written, the Matrix or whatever was finally able to lock in on Smith and delete him from the program.
Actually its the machines that are dependant on the humans, so intil they find analternate power source theres no way in hell they'll let go of what they have now. That and letting everybody free would kill 99% of them anyways.found this aspect of the movie strangely fitting. Note that in the world of Matrix its ultimately the humans who are/were the bad guys. So from that POV its not bad that they are at dependent at the word of the machines.
Revolution was bad, but not because of that truce imho.
Aplha 1-1 said:Actually its the machines that are dependant on the humans, so intil they find analternate power source theres no way in hell they'll let go of what they have now. That and letting everybody free would kill 99% of them anyways.
Aplha 1-1 said:This is very obviously answered by the architect, saying that Neo and Smith are two opposite sides of an equation needed to fool the people into accepting the matrix. Thats why both of them are immortal untill you can kill both at exactly the same time (hey yr12 level maths actually does have a use in real life
Aplha 1-1 said:This is very obviously answered by the architect, saying that Neo and Smith are two opposite sides of an equation needed to fool the people into accepting the matrix. Thats why both of them are immortal untill you can kill both at exactly the same time (hey yr12 level maths actually does have a use in real life )
Aplha 1-1 said:found this aspect of the movie strangely fitting. Note that in the world of Matrix its ultimately the humans who are/were the bad guys. So from that POV its not bad that they are at dependent at the word of the machines.
Revolution was bad, but not because of that truce imho.
Actually its the machines that are dependant on the humans, so intil they find analternate power source theres no way in hell they'll let go of what they have now. That and letting everybody free would kill 99% of them anyways.
But neither of them could truely be destroyed within the matrix.Neo is not immortal, as he ages between the first and second movie. He's also killed in the first movie, as is Smith. Then Neo is injured numerous times in the sequels.
Probably because none of the machines could handle the concept of free will, the one key flaw of the matrix? So why not dump that crapload of data in a human mind. Ands it's my understanding that Neo and the previous 'ones' had advanced minds from birth. Besides this we know that the matrix had failed in the past when they talk about losing whole crops and such inmy personal favourite animatrix episodes "the second renaissance 1&2"But why would the machine create a human, rather than another program, who could balance Smith out this way, especially before he got so... malignant after the second movie? Making a person who could, in theory, tear apart the Matrix sounds more like a bad plot device than anything sensible.
Aplha 1-1 said:But neither of them could truely be destroyed within the matrix.
Aplha 1-1 said:Ands it's my understanding that Neo and the previous 'ones' had advanced minds from birth.
Aplha 1-1 said:Besides this we know that the matrix had failed in the past when they talk about losing whole crops and such inmy personal favourite animatrix episodes "the second renaissance 1&2"
I personally felt the movie was great up to that point and that particular scene(s) was outstanding yet at the end of it neo gets to the... whatever that thing was and it was as if the whole movie came to a screeching halt (...wait! It did didn't it! ). The smith/neo fight just wasn't that interesting or intense.Mjr. Whoopass said:The third matrix was my favorite due to the awesome battle featuring the Sentinels Vs. Whatever those human robot tanks were called.
Mjr. Whoopass said:The third matrix was my favorite due to the awesome battle featuring the Sentinels Vs. Whatever those human robot tanks were called.