Aries
Vice Admiral
Originally posted by Cam
I don't know about you man, but I would prefer if my nation's armed forces thinks about what they are about to do before they do it.
they do think about what they are about to do, but in a strictly military sense. what i ment by my comment is that the military follows the orders of the civilian government. it is the gov's job to fully think through the decision of sending in the military. the military's job is to carry out the orders of the civ gov.
I think you've confused nationalism with patriotism. Or maybe not--the American definition of nationalism has become skewed. If you compared nationalism in an American (New World) dictionary with nationalism in an English dictionary you'd probably notice that the American dictionary lacks the key piece: too great a love for one's nation.
well, my dictionary called nationalism extreme patriotism. and i don't see how someone could love thier country too much
Nationalism spawns feelings of superiority (as many proud Americans have exhibited in this discussion already) and in the past can be seen in examples such as Nazi Germany. It was one of the major factors of WW1 (or was it 2?). I don't know if they teach that in US high school level history classes though--since the American definition of nationalism is now synonymous with patriotism.
well, i was unlucky enough to have a history teacher who said that the normandy beaches were on the bay of biscay. but i do know that nationalism was one of the factors that made the armies of WW1 (and the napoleonic wars and WW2) so large, in combination with the draft. but nationalism didn't start WW1, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand (sp?) of the Austro-Hungarian empire by serbian Gabrilo Princip (sp?) and the subsequent declarations of war (Austria-Hungary against serbia, russia against austria-hungary, german against damn near everyone, etc) started WW1. now, yes, Princip (sp?) was a nationalist, so i can understand how some people would say that nationalism started WW1
Perhaps being a nationalist isn't enough to make you a "wacko" but nationalist beliefs are certainly far more dangerous than patriotism.
and a gun is far more dangerous than a knife. it all matters on what kind of person is holding the gun, to see if they're gonna go kill someone or be a responsible person and only use it in self defense (unless they are in a job that might require them to use said gun offensively)
I chose the word nationalism just to see if anybody would respond in the way you did. If you are an example of the rest of American society, then many may not know this difference. Guess it's true what they say--history is doomed to repeat itself.
and i knew the definition of nationalism, i just didn't want to get into a definition debate. i am most definatly not an example of the rest of American society, i am an example of Aries. many would not know the difference btwn nationalism and patriotism cause CNN itself doesn't know the difference, and most people get their daily vocabulary word from CNN. yes, that is sad, and yes, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, as we are seeing with the iraq situation.