WC4 Mod For Homeworld 2 In The Works (June 5, 2006)
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TonViper
Rear Admiral
I never did get around to looking at that code, but here's something I've been working on these last few days:
As you can tell, the texture work is very preliminary with mostly placeholder assets taken from my old Excalibur model, and I still haven't modeled the wingtip guns. It always annoyed me that I'd never been able to find a decent quality Bearcat model, since even the original ingame model didn't properly reflect how the renders show it to look. They'd cropped off the back end of the engines, among others IIRC.
In other news, I may have found out what caused my Excalibur to render wrong ingame in HW2 with the new shaders. Most likely, it was a bug in the tool I used to get it ingame. I'll have to test it using another version of the tool to be sure, but I have to get around to re-installing the tools before I can test that, and they're not easy to get working on a modern system.
*edit* I will continue posting updates on the status of this model, and my Excalibur in a new thread, so I don't clutter up this old thread with it before I'm ready to show something ingame.
As you can tell, the texture work is very preliminary with mostly placeholder assets taken from my old Excalibur model, and I still haven't modeled the wingtip guns. It always annoyed me that I'd never been able to find a decent quality Bearcat model, since even the original ingame model didn't properly reflect how the renders show it to look. They'd cropped off the back end of the engines, among others IIRC.
In other news, I may have found out what caused my Excalibur to render wrong ingame in HW2 with the new shaders. Most likely, it was a bug in the tool I used to get it ingame. I'll have to test it using another version of the tool to be sure, but I have to get around to re-installing the tools before I can test that, and they're not easy to get working on a modern system.
*edit* I will continue posting updates on the status of this model, and my Excalibur in a new thread, so I don't clutter up this old thread with it before I'm ready to show something ingame.
Iceblade
Admiral
Intriguing: http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/5232/t1719413-homeworld-2-rearm-mod/
Not sure if the name implies fighter now have finite weapons, but capship naming was added.
Okay, I have tried for hours to get the resource collector for Confed and the Black Lance (the Project) to carry debris. They just bump right into the debris and then sit there. I've tried replacing the collector model to the one used by the Border Worlds. I've tried using the collectors for the Border Worlds (after setting the motherships (ie stations) to allow for alien race docking) and that didn't work. I've even tried changing the mothership file for Confed to match up with that for the Border Worlds as much as I can without replacing the model. No luck at all.
PS I'm using czaren's last released version since the most recent version is encrypted.
Not sure if the name implies fighter now have finite weapons, but capship naming was added.
Okay, I have tried for hours to get the resource collector for Confed and the Black Lance (the Project) to carry debris. They just bump right into the debris and then sit there. I've tried replacing the collector model to the one used by the Border Worlds. I've tried using the collectors for the Border Worlds (after setting the motherships (ie stations) to allow for alien race docking) and that didn't work. I've even tried changing the mothership file for Confed to match up with that for the Border Worlds as much as I can without replacing the model. No luck at all.
PS I'm using czaren's last released version since the most recent version is encrypted.
L.I.F.
Vice Admiral
I've seen the moddb page and it doesn't look like the mod is using limited munitions, more like a new batch of weaponry for ships (and the capship naming thingie looks interesting). I'll download it when the moddb link finally works on my side and give it a try.
As for the resource collectors themselves, I really don't know enough to help here (I'm just able to work on weapon/subsystem coding and the such, but not on 3D models and their interaction ingame).
L.I.F.
Vice Admiral
Gents, I am necro-ing this thread for an announcement:
As Homeworld Remastered has been released a few days ago on Steam, porting HW1, HW2 and, most importantly, a revamped version of both games in 4K resolution, remastered gameplay and other improvements... I have begun porting the Wing Commander mod to the Remastered engine.
You'll notice that I have still quite a lot to do to get it working completely, but I'm doing my best to get everything operational as soon as possible for the mod to work under the new user interface and the changes in engine. More to come very soon.
In the meantime, I have uploaded the original mod and tinkered with it to work with the Steam version of Homeworld 2 Classic: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=399849926
And, of course, thanks to Aaron "czacen" Thomas, who did the original work for, well... everything.
As Homeworld Remastered has been released a few days ago on Steam, porting HW1, HW2 and, most importantly, a revamped version of both games in 4K resolution, remastered gameplay and other improvements... I have begun porting the Wing Commander mod to the Remastered engine.
You'll notice that I have still quite a lot to do to get it working completely, but I'm doing my best to get everything operational as soon as possible for the mod to work under the new user interface and the changes in engine. More to come very soon.
In the meantime, I have uploaded the original mod and tinkered with it to work with the Steam version of Homeworld 2 Classic: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=399849926
And, of course, thanks to Aaron "czacen" Thomas, who did the original work for, well... everything.
L.I.F.
Vice Admiral
I'm debugging some stuff right now. If you have the files for the icons, I would be forever grateful, because he stored them in a single grouped file in the original mod, and I don't know how to extract them (thus the missing icons in the current versions).
L.I.F.
Vice Admiral
Well, the good news is that the mod for Remastered works in multiplayer, according to a user on Steam. If you add the command line "-mpbeta -mod WC4FC_Remastered.big", it apparently worked for that user who played two hours without crash with friends over the Beta multi. I'd be glad to have a game with some people here when I finish debugging the mod itself.
Can you imagine a multi game with carriers only?
Edit: YES! I just had the Black Lance units to work in Remastered!
Second Edit:
That's it, people, the new version of the mod is being uploaded as I type. I'll work on integrating czacen's AI for the Wing Commander factions during the week-end.
Changelog:
- Black Lance faction now available
- Research trees available for all three factions
- Excalibur cap numbers bug fixed
- Border Worlds faction fixed
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=403171608
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L.I.F.
Vice Admiral
Glad you like it! And the mod is indeed excellent, so upgrading it to Remastered was one of the main reasons for me to buy Remastered in the first place.
Morning hotfixes: fixed a problem with the cap numbers for Excalibur, Longbow, Avenger and Dragon when using default or small cap numbers in a game (I was doing the check with large and huge, forgetting the two other settings), fixed the Confed Thunderbolt that was using the Longbow cap numbers, fixed the Border Worlds capship production facility that couldn't be built, removed a not-working UBW legacy unit from the HW2 Classic mode where the BW replaced the Vaygr.
In other news, a medium- to long-term goal would be to integrate the Kilrathi if possible to the mod. The thing is that I do not have the skills and knowledge to create the ship models, so if anyone is willing to share such models or to create them for the mod, please contact me. Thank you!
c0mc0
Rear Admiral
I.I.F. - Great work man. Really interested to check this out when it's near a complete state and I've finished the single player campaigns. I'm interested to know - what is involved with working on the AI? Without knowing how it all works, it sounds like a very complex thing to customise...Or does Homeworld use pre-built parameters or something that you can tweak to make things easier?
L.I.F.
Vice Admiral
Thanks. What gets me quite excited is the multiplayer options. We should try to get a CIC Steam Group for these, it would make things easier to organize, I think.
It can be quite complex, but I'm trying to use czacen's files and port them while making them "cooperate" with the vanilla files. Everything is organized, and I need to be very methodical, though.