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Yeah, we’ve certainly saw a lot of those.Quarto said:
Uh, but he was a politician, and it’s because of acting as a comander that I liked him so much. I don’t care if he’d be eaten alive, I can’t imagine anyone else keeping Landreich alive in the way Kruger did.EW: Kruger wasn't a politician. That might sound odd, I know, but it seems to me that he always acted like a military commander, rather than a president. If he tried to take part in real politics, he'd be eaten alive.
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Quarto
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Ah, which brings me to another question.
Is Landreich a part of the Border Worlds now? I know it sounds like an odd question, but that little bit from the WCIV book - you know, the bit that served as the WCIV manual - anyway, it says that "the Border Worlds had refused to release the carriers acquired from Earth until long after the Kilrathi had began their assault." This to me seems to indicate that Landreich and BW are - by '73, anyway - one and the same.
What I want to know, is there anything else anywhere that would either support or disprove this?
Also, what do we know of the Border Worlds government? As in, structure-wise. You know, what the different positions are, do we know who's who, et cetera...
...LOAF?
Is Landreich a part of the Border Worlds now? I know it sounds like an odd question, but that little bit from the WCIV book - you know, the bit that served as the WCIV manual - anyway, it says that "the Border Worlds had refused to release the carriers acquired from Earth until long after the Kilrathi had began their assault." This to me seems to indicate that Landreich and BW are - by '73, anyway - one and the same.
What I want to know, is there anything else anywhere that would either support or disprove this?
Also, what do we know of the Border Worlds government? As in, structure-wise. You know, what the different positions are, do we know who's who, et cetera...
...LOAF?
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Nope, nothing. It is possible and very likely that they formed an alliance during the WC4 time, but if anything, I'd imagine that it would be the BW that joined the Landreich. Though according to the Prophecy official guide, Confed and BW are in prety good relations these days, meanwhile Landreich is a hell hole and a heaven for criminals, at least in Confeds eyes, and Kruger is wanted by Confederation.Quarto said:
Though technicly Landreich has always been a border world.
Nothing. We know a little about their military strength from the game and novel, but things like government and such aren't really mentioned.
Hey! I'm here too!...LOAF?
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Quarto
Unknown Enemy
Hmm, well, the way I see, BW would be a union (hmm... Union of Border Worlds... duh
I would imagine though, that Confed would have taken some pretty radical steps following the BW crisis to normalise relations. One such step would probably have been to give all those criminals an amnesty. Because, as you know, the Border Worlds were generally considered (by the senators, at least) to all be a bunch of crims. Not just Landreich
Ah, excellent. That gives me a free hand
Who said that?Hey! I'm here too!
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Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Well, I'm no Earthworm*, but I have extensive training in this area...
The Border Worlds and the Landreich aren't one and the same for several reasons...
- The statement in the WCIV novel that the Border Worlds recieves supplies (fighters) from "Kruger's Landreich" at Orleans. This, IMHO, shows fairly conclusively that they're one and the same.
- Andrew Keith's intention to write a Confed versus Landreich war story that would take place after WCIV. Although Keith and Baen are now gone, the fact that the story was intended should be enough to show that someone had decided somewhere that they weren't the same place.
- The fact that FC gives a detailed description of the Landreich and its worlds (including exact numbers and many names) indicates that they aren't the same place
- The fact that the Intrepid is the flagship of the Border World's fleet, whereas the Landreich flagship is the far more powerful former Karga
- The UBW gives up their military -- Kruger would never, ever, ever allow this.
* I'm better!
The Border Worlds and the Landreich aren't one and the same for several reasons...
- The statement in the WCIV novel that the Border Worlds recieves supplies (fighters) from "Kruger's Landreich" at Orleans. This, IMHO, shows fairly conclusively that they're one and the same.
- Andrew Keith's intention to write a Confed versus Landreich war story that would take place after WCIV. Although Keith and Baen are now gone, the fact that the story was intended should be enough to show that someone had decided somewhere that they weren't the same place.
- The fact that FC gives a detailed description of the Landreich and its worlds (including exact numbers and many names) indicates that they aren't the same place
- The fact that the Intrepid is the flagship of the Border World's fleet, whereas the Landreich flagship is the far more powerful former Karga
- The UBW gives up their military -- Kruger would never, ever, ever allow this.
* I'm better!
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Everyone wants to be me…..Bandit LOAF said:Well, I'm no Earthworm*, but I have extensive training in this area...
Not according to the Prophecy official guide…. I don't have the exact quote, but ther's some info on how the two cooperate with each other, and exchange officers wich is how Willford and Hawk got to Confed.
He he, you wish!
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Quarto
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Well, that answers one of my questions, LOAF, but you've just raised another one
. Like Earthworm, I'm also wondering what that "UBW giving up their military" is about, especially since the exchange program mentioned in the WCP guide seems to contradict that.
And of course, I'm still wondering if _you_ might know anything about the UBW government, or is it indeed totally undescribed?
And of course, I'm still wondering if _you_ might know anything about the UBW government, or is it indeed totally undescribed?
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Here's the exact quote form Wilford's bio:
"After the Black Lance affair, the Terran Confederation and the Border Worlds moved aggressively to re-cement their damaged relationship. One of the diplomatic tools employed was a compact increasing military exchange and cooperation between the two governments, including provision for the transfer of officers of all ranks between the militaries of each." And: under the terms of the Border Worlds military exchange program, he remains a rear admiral in the Border Worlds Naval Reserve" And the last piece: "... and has four children, the oldest of which will be entering the Confed Naval Academy (as a Border Worlds exchange cadet)...."
"After the Black Lance affair, the Terran Confederation and the Border Worlds moved aggressively to re-cement their damaged relationship. One of the diplomatic tools employed was a compact increasing military exchange and cooperation between the two governments, including provision for the transfer of officers of all ranks between the militaries of each." And: under the terms of the Border Worlds military exchange program, he remains a rear admiral in the Border Worlds Naval Reserve" And the last piece: "... and has four children, the oldest of which will be entering the Confed Naval Academy (as a Border Worlds exchange cadet)...."