Broadswords in WCM?...

Well, if even the cap ships have to lower their shields in order to fire weapons in the movie, probably the fighters doesn´t have shields...
 
You know...

I really didn't like the movie as much as I hoped. The game is hella better. I mean Mark Hamill was replaced with a first-time actor (Freddie Prince, now popular) and Maniac replaced by the 1 time actor from Scream. So two stars of Star Wars and Back to the Future replaced by two new actors. Also I like the Kilrathi costumes better in the game, as well as the storyline. To me the movie was a waste. The game is A LOT better

Ben (hoping not to get flamed)
 
Yes, But Mark Hamill and Tom Wilson are too old to do a young space pilot


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Well, if even the cap ships have to lower their shields in order to fire weapons in the movie, probably the fighters doesn´t have shields...

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They have Shields:
Fore and Aft phase shield rated to 13 cm (Broadsword)
Fore and Aft phase shield rated to 7 cm (Rapier)

WC Handbook
 
Maybe the movie wasn´t so good as many of us hoped because it was made for general sci fi fans not only for WC fans.
 
Making a WC movie for WC fans would've tanked worse than the movie we got. No one would've backed it.
 
Re: You know...

Originally posted by Ben
I really didn't like the movie as much as I hoped. The game is hella better. I mean Mark Hamill was replaced with a first-time actor (Freddie Prince, now popular) and Maniac replaced by the 1 time actor from Scream. So two stars of Star Wars and Back to the Future replaced by two new actors. Also I like the Kilrathi costumes better in the game, as well as the storyline. To me the movie was a waste. The game is A LOT better

Ben (hoping not to get flamed)
No flames, but you are quite erroneous with regard to Freddie Prinz, Jr. and Matthew Lillard. Both were around for several years before WCM came about.
 
They could have at least gotten the ACCENT right! Poor Palladin... his reputation ruined forever after being portrayed as a frenchman... and not terran born, where the game pally was from Scotland...
 
Originally posted by Manic
They could have at least gotten the ACCENT right! Poor Palladin... his reputation ruined forever after being portrayed as a frenchman... and not terran born, where the game pally was from Scotland...

- Paladin's accent was neither Scottish nor French, according to the WCIV novel.
- There is *nothing* in the Wing Commander movie about where Paladin was born -- although according to Wing Commander 1, he was, say it with me now, *not Terran born*.
- DMN FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY SI ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF


- Paladin's accent was neither Scottish nor French, according to the WCIV novel.
- There is *nothing* in the Wing Commander movie about where Paladin was born -- although according to Wing Commander 1, he was, say it with me now, *not Terran born*.

-I have the WC4 novel: Where in there (and how) does it state his accent, or is it that it simply doesn't mention his accent AT ALL, one way or another?...

-True, he wasn't Terran born. But, for the benefit of readers:

He was "first generation" Venusian (his parents were from Scotland; he was born, apparently, in "Ares", a space station in permanent orbit around Venus). Having parents from Scotland, though, it's a given that he probably grew up with a Scottish burr to his voice. In other words, entirely plausible and even likely that his "native" accent was Scots...
 
Originally posted by Preacher
-I have the WC4 novel: Where in there (and how) does it state his accent, or is it that it simply doesn't mention his accent AT ALL, one way or another?...


Page 26.

Do you need a line number, too?

He was "first generation" Venusian (his parents were from Scotland; he was born, apparently, in "Ares", a space station in permanent orbit around Venus). Having parents from Scotland, though, it's a given that he probably grew up with a Scottish burr to his voice. In other words, entirely plausible and even likely that his "native" accent was Scots...

A ga-zillion things are "plausible" -- but that doesn't make them true. This one certainly wasn't...
 
Everybody, shut up about Paladin's friggin' accent! He's Scottish, not French, even if the actor playing him had that accent!

Only science fiction geeks like us can make such a big deal over a small thing. :)
 
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
He's neither Scottish nor French -- he was born on a space station. Wing Commander 1 says this.

But his parents were Scottish (from Wick) according to WC1 manual...
 
Sure, Paladin's not Scottish... but he's been undercover so long he's forgotton what it's like not to be :)

Proxima Spaceworks Errant
The first Errants were produced in 2614, and the design has remained virtually unchanged since that time, aside from the addition of the optional-weapon hardpoints in 2621, incremental upgrades in the standard command and control software, and the evolution of the Hastings-Sakura drive array.

The lightest commercially available, jump-capable utility ship, the Proxima Errant is a workhorse of the Confed economy. The Errant is greatly valued for its modular construction and extreme customizability. The 10,000-cubic-meter hold can be fitted with a cabin module containing living space for one to four passangers (the unconfigured Errant includes cabin capacity for a crew of two, although only a single pilot is needed to operate the ship). By itself the Errant can be used effectively for light cargo, for passanger charter or as a courier, and it can even be customized for use as a recreational cabin cruiser. Its most common function, however, is as a control module for cargo drones or towed cargo units. Under its own power, an Errant has impulse capacity to effectively maneuver up to 20,000 tonnes of towed cargo. It its cargo units are independently powered, its capacity becomes effectively unlimited.

Class Merchantman
Length 25 meters
Mass 100 tonnes
Cruise Velocity 100 kps
Mass Velocity 150 kps
Weapons 2 forward hardpoints
1 turret hardpoint amidships
Armor/Shields Optional



CF-131 Broadsword
The first Broadswords were deployed during the Pilgrim War to support Confed's invasion. It still remains Confed's primary fighter/bomber. In 2648 all in-service Broadwords were upgraded to receive two antimater torpedoes, but other than that change and minor upgrades to ship's systemz, the Broadsword of today emains remarkably similar to those that flew with the Grand Fleet.

The Broadsword stacks and amazing amount of destructive potential into a copact package only at the expense of maneuverability. The Broadsword has virtually no evasive capacity-it gas to either destroy attackers outright or rely on escorts of lighter fighters. On the plus side, its three recessed turrets can provide a full 360 degrees of fire support, and be set for independent or syncronized targeting. There's also a defensive AI mode that will automatically fire the turrwets and any target of opportunity.

Like all Confed fighters, thge Broadsword mounts a Tempest targeting and navigational system, and its drive array is jump-capable. The Broadsword is rated for up to 16 hours of life support. It can generate a retrieval tractor rated up to 150 tonnes. It is capable of ejecting the pilot in a standard survival pod.

Class Fighter/Bomber
Length 12 meters
Mass 14 tonnes
Cruise Velocity 150 kps
Max Veloxity 320 kps
Weapons3 Mass-Driver Cannon (2 wing-mounted,
one nose-mounted)
3 Missile Mounts
2 Torpedoes
Turrets 3; 2 Neutron Guns in each
Armor Fore and aft phase shields rated to 13 cm
10 cm each fore armor / aft armor
8 cm each port/starboard armor




[BTW: Thanks, LOAF. Works fine now. Have no idea what the hell happened].
 
But his parents were Scottish...

That’s not exactly what the bio in Claw Marks says, though I suppose it’s the most natural interpretation (assuming the bio itself is true). The fact that Senator James Taggart is located in Scotland at the time of “Prophecy” is also suggestive.

So if his parents were Scottish, then he could very well be Scottish too, and so a citizen of both Ares and Scotland. (Of course, it’s not clear (nor for our purposes particularly important) what Ares’ own status is, but the description in Claw Marks does make it sound like it’s some sort of independent society.) Dual citizenship is certainly not uncommon in our own time, though the laws governing citizenship based on place of birth and on descent can vary from country to country. I don’t know what Scotland’s present laws are regarding the latter–I’m pretty sure they do recognize jus sanguinis, as it’s formally called, to some extent–however, what we’d really want to know is how Scottish law reads in and around 2605-2609, which is anyone’s guess.
 
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