Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
I'm working on the new ships list, and I can't place one of my references -- the Pelican-class TCS Cimino. My notes say it's in Prophecy... but I can't find any proof of that. Anyone know?
The Midway has been cut off from her primary supply routes by the enemy fleet in H'rekkah. Before her transmissions were jammed, we contacted a supply convoy destined for the Taliban colony.
- TCS Alcatraz - Personally, I don't like the idea of labelling the Alcatraz as a "Prison Ship". All we know about the Alcatraz is that she's a Waterloo-class cruiser, and that she's being used to transport prisoners. To call her a prison ship goes against common sense - if the Waterloos are so important that some of them (the Gettysburg) are regarded as carriers, it seems unlikely to the extreme that any Waterloo would be used exclusively as a prison ship.
- TCS Beowulf - the name seems to have disappeared somehow - it just says "TCS - Unknown".
- TCS Morgan - Ajax-class? Something strange going on here, given that there are only two TCS Ajaxes (one an Achilles-class, the other a Tallahassee).
- TCS Trygvie Lie - this is an odd one. The ship's name is obviously canon the way you spelled it... but the ship is named after Trygve Lie (...whose name is apparently pronounced Trygvie, hence Origin's spelling mistake). All things considered, I think in this case Origin's intentions should be considered more valid than what actually ended up in the game.
- TCS Tango - The Intrepid was named differently under Confed flag, so wouldn't it be safe to assume that the Tango also wasn't named the Tango?
- TCS Tango (again) - In the BW section, this should be the BWS Tango. Also, I'm not sure if the Intrepid & Tango still classify as heavy destroyers. Doesn't the game refer to the Intrepid as a carrier?
- TCS San Jacinto (in the FRLS section) - this should be the FRLS San Jacinto.
Bandit LOAF said:Well, that's a good point, but unfortunately it also means I have to do something about the Tango's alternative class...
For the record, I've never enjoyed focusing on the 'conversion' of the Intrepid. It's something that's referenced only in the script - and fans have taken it much further than I think anyone ever intended (remember when everyone insisted that the Intrepid was two destroyers glued together?). Clearly, something was done -- but it may have just been expanding the existing fighter carrying capacity of the Durango-class...
Bandit LOAF said:I narrowed the Beowulf down to being a destroyer of some sort with a quote from the movie novelization.
Delance said:Does the Landreich name ships after saints? Confed has all that "*Mount* St Helens" thing going on.
Well, that's fair enough... though I still don't like it .Bandit LOAF said:The briefing refers to both the Bastille and the Alcatraz as being 'prison ships'. That, plus their prison-specific names suggests to me that they do a different job than ordinary Waterloos and Clydesdales.
Of course, if we were to speculate, we'd have to conclude that the Beowulf is almost certainly a Gilgamesh... but that would go against the purpose and intentions of this list.Caught that one already - and for what it's worth, I narrowed the Beowulf down to being a destroyer of some sort with a quote from the movie novelization.
Yeah, I guess it's better not to completely change it - the annotations that you put in are fine.I do agree, but I'm not sure I want to change the name from what's listed in the game. Would an annotation be reasonable enough? (The TCS Kobi, from the movie, has the same problem - it should be Kobe, despite being spelled 'Kobi' in the script, the subtitles and the novel).
It's been a while since I've read TPoF, but wasn't it mentioned that the hangar was mounted [insert bad "Beavis and Butthead" joke here] on the underside of the Intrepid?
Does the Landreich name ships after saints? Confed has all that "*Mount* St Helens" thing going on.
Because it does seem the ship is named after the battle, and not the saint.
IIRC correctly, theres a TCS Beowulf in WC2, its the Concordia's escort that gets destroyed when they jump into Gynedd near the beginning of the game, I could be wrong though.
The Landreich names their ships after battles for freedom or something like that, it gets mentioned in End Run.
Well, that's fair enough... though I still don't like it .
Of course, if we were to speculate, we'd have to conclude that the Beowulf is almost certainly a Gilgamesh... but that would go against the purpose and intentions of this list.
Bandit LOAF said:I think they say 'slung underneath', which really just creates more questions than it does answers, given what the ship looks like in the game.Death said:It's been a while since I've read TPoF, but wasn't it mentioned that the hangar was mounted [insert bad "Beavis and Butthead" joke here] on the underside of the Intrepid?