Helloaf, saucy movie thread.
Yep, because everyone knows it's impossible to make a good movie about an archaeologist adventurer on a quest to find some kind of artifact and save the world.
This is a personal aside to the important work of yelling at eachother about Penny Arcade that we have to do here, but I've long believed that Tomb Raider is just about the most untapped-potential franchise anywhere. The character is an amazingly fun idea that, if developed properly in the supporting material (comics/novels/movies), could be a lot better than it is now.
Nope. There are two; Mike "Gabe" Krahulik and Jerry "Tycho" Holkins. Anyways:
Far be it from me to bring any sort of fact into this discussion, but a quick shift through the last thirty pages of archived news seems to indicate that exactly what I'm saying is true: the one with the horribly pretentious writing style that I'm complaining about ("Tycho", apparently) always writes the top news update.
1: Both Gabe's and Tycho's styles of writing are refreshing, witty, and humorous. See? I can phrase my opinions as fact too!
2: The commentary isn't designed to be funny, although sometimes is.
1: I'm going to give you some advice that my own mother gave to me: stop being an asshole or you won't get any cake. And cake is a metaphor for me banning you. I'm sorry if I've offended you by daring not to like one element of the website of an online comic strip, but it's no reason for you to explode.
2: The link you provided is an excellent example of *exactly* what I'm talking about. Quote your link: "I'd amassed a certain affection for the culinary arts, that is to say, the construction of the edible" instead of 'I enjoy cooking!' There's the thesaurus/pretention crap that I'm talking about -- it's the sort of thing that was probably cute once and got enough of a response that he turned it into his regular style. It seems like fingers on a chalkboard to me.
And the people in this forum usually hate everything... If I were to say that WCIV is a great game (which I think it is), people would find lot's of bad things to say about it. Half -Life sucks, PA sucks, humor sucks, peace sucks, jokes sucks, SW DVDs suck, well, this is the internet forum with the highest standard ever.
We are a cultured lot -- but I think you'll find that on average the posters here are a lot more intelligent than your average IMDB or generic game forum BBS, too.
I'd rather watch "Ice Pirates."
Now, Captain, you specifically told me that it was slightly more bearable than Ice Pirates right after it came out.
Seriously, I don't love the Wing Commander movie. Or really like it. It was an okay waste of my time, which is ordinarily spent reading Star Trek novels. What I love is the stuff that all the tie-in merchandise added to the WC universe, and I find in general that in order to defend that material I need to defend the quality of the movie itself. Like... congressmen... who have to side... with one party... to get money for their... fish farms.
Also, I enjoy arguing with people on the internet in the context of something that isn't dumb.
To wit:
I'll put it to the challenge. Count how many threads in this forum say something like:"What was your favorite scene/death/character/part of WC I/II/III/IV/P?"
Then count how many threads say something like: "What was you favorite scene/death/character/part of WCM?"
Eh, two points against this approach in my mind.
1) The vast majority of those threads are "What's your favorite character" or "What's your favorite ship" threads. Furthermore, most of these things are also interactive -- we love Angel because the game was about us kissing her, we love the Hellcat because we had our hands on the stick and know how it flies, and we love the Dralthi because we know how they interacted with us personally. You don't get that in a movie -- you don't see film review boards that talk about what peoples favorite character or favorite boat was in ordinary movies. Even so, we get people who like just the movie. Look at old CIC polls that involve some m ovie character -- they always get some small share. Also, we do run into movie people on occasion... when we ran the booth at Dragon*Con three years ago, we had a shocking number of people come up and ask why there hadn't been a 'Wing Commander 2' yet. It sounds like a terrible lie, and I wouldn't believe it if I wasnt there... but there's some weird support for it among general Sci Fi fans.
2) I firmly believe in the 'latest product, most disliked' theory. Try and find a 'Favorite Privateer 2 ship' thread from 1996. As time went on, we came to accept Privateer 2 and even cite it as one of our favorites on occasion. Even with 'numbered' games like WCIV and Prophecy, the vast majority of threads after they came out and before the next game were big critical continuity errors/general dislike fests. Remember how offended people were that they got rid of the cartoon heads and WC2 stuff in WC3? The online community is fickle -- I really do believe that when the next Wing Commander game comes out, people will complain about the days back when Chris Roberts was directing movies...
Also: Kenshi vs. LeHah argument should take it to private message, unless it can become something other than about which of you is allowed to use big words.
(wait, I didn't use enough 50 cent words and obtuse metaphors... 
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