No Paradigm in Standoff?

Okay, I never looked close enough before but the Firekka you have on your website is the design for the Tarawa class? It is a perfect copy of what is on the cover of End Run (which seems to be designated with a 12 by teh way :)), but I had a question. I always thought that picture was the artists representation of the Concordia (it may be that it favors the Confederation class Dreadnaught significantly) and that we had never seen the Tarawa type? I'd always envisioned the Tarawa almost like a Ranger type carrier, with the single flight deck in the middle or thrown together on top of the flat surface. Oh well, my illusions will have to come to an end :(.

C-ya
 
I always thought of it as a flying box with a bay on the bottom-middle or bottom-rear. The bay seems to be the same place as I immagined, but instead of a box, it's a winged box. :D
 
Viper61 said:
Okay, I never looked close enough before but the Firekka you have on your website is the design for the Tarawa class?
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Yep, it's supposed to be a CVE of the same class as the Tarawa.

Viper61 said:
It is a perfect copy of what is on the cover of End Run (which seems to be designated with a 12 by teh way )
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Yeah... kind of makes us wonder why, since there were only 9 CVEs of that class

Viper61 said:
I always thought that picture was the artists representation of the Concordia (it may be that it favors the Confederation class Dreadnaught significantly) and that we had never seen the Tarawa type?
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I doubt it. The artist probably made it a bit too much like the Concordia indeed, but a strong resemblance was necessary to the plot - a certain passage in End Run mentions that the Kilrathi prince whose name I can never spell thought the Tarawa was actually the Concordia herself, after seeing some flight recorder footage brought in by a Sartha (IIRC)... so there must definitely be a strong resemblance - if not in size, at least in configuration.

Viper61 said:
I'd always envisioned the Tarawa almost like a Ranger type carrier, with the single flight deck in the middle or thrown together on top of the flat surface.
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Well, my version of the Tarawa has a single fly-thru flight deck which runs thru the middle of the ship (it's closer to the bottom, actually)... and if you see it side by side with the Concordia, you'll realize that they don't actually look that much like each other, even if you disregard the scale (the Tarawa is less than half the length of the Concordia - almost the same lenght as a Ranger). I tried to follow End Run's cover as much as possible, while also representing information we find in the novel itself - things like having particle turrets at the back, mass drivers at the bow, a cramped flight deck, the engines of a Gilgamesh, etc.

Viper61 said:
Oh well, my illusions will have to come to an end .
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Well, I don't really want to encourage anyone to give up their imagination

(Note from TC: Sorry, edited your post instead of quoted... stupid new board layout. Ah well, I fixed what I unfixed)
 
Eder said:
(the Tarawa is less than half the length of the Concordia - almost the same lenght as a Ranger).
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Rangers are 720m long... that's much more than half of the length of the Confederation class
 
Since I know that the Firekka is a Tarawa type carrier, I went back and looked at the rest of your screenshots and you have and I've got one observation . . .you weren't kidding when you said a cramped flight deck! A Crossbow barely fits in that sucker :) Bear wasn't kidding when he said he had a problem lining up on this little flight deck.

C-ya
 
TC said:
Rangers are 720m long... that's much more than half of the length of the Confederation class
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Oops, I thought they were 420m long. Ok, so the Tarawa is really much smaller than a Ranger, my bad.

Viper61 said:
you weren't kidding when you said a cramped flight deck! A Crossbow barely fits in that sucker :) Bear wasn't kidding when he said he had a problem lining up on this little flight deck.
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Yeah, I figured that for Bear to have trouble landing a Ferret in there, the thing must've been *really* cramped :)
 
If I remember correctly, in FA at the beginning of the book (?) Tolwyn revealed the true reason of taking back the system they were attacking was to set up for a raid into Kilrathi territory with groups built around escort carriers, 4 destroyers and a crusier. Also, didn't the informant in the Confed Gov't (forgot her name) have her son captured from an CVE that was destroyed? And I think in Tolwyn's speech thing, he also mentioned 2 CVEs that did deep raids into Kilrathi Territory to destroy a carrier refit base.
 
Unregistered said:
If I remember correctly, in FA at the beginning of the book (?) Tolwyn revealed the true reason of taking back the system they were attacking was to set up for a raid into Kilrathi territory with groups built around escort carriers, 4 destroyers and a crusier. Also, didn't the informant in the Confed Gov't (forgot her name) have her son captured from an CVE that was destroyed? And I think in Tolwyn's speech thing, he also mentioned 2 CVEs that did deep raids into Kilrathi Territory to destroy a carrier refit base.
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It was the opening move in a new offensive I wanna say red something or over.

Foreign Sec Jamison's son was captured in the enigma sector I don't think it mentions from what ship or what type.

The Engima and Khorsan both go on missions to destroy transports and shipyards. They destroy several carriers before being lost.

That's what I can recall off the top of my head...
 
Bandit LOAF said:
Messing up hull numbers is a Concordia-ish looking ship tradition... just ask the WC2 box art. :)
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Also, look at the Cerberus' number on the screen you see when you load the game and then look at the number ingame and you'll see that its two different numbers (I think the ingame is 00 and the screen is 01 or something like that.)
 
Well, I'm not sure about the CVEs, but that's because I'm not as far up on my WC material as you guys are. I'm missing a lot of pieces. :(

As for the Paradigm, I do have commentary to make. I think they did mean the most advanced ship in the Gemini sector, because the Concordia had, IIRC, been built at that time, and it blows any Paradigm away.

I do like the Paradigm though...and it does look like it can carry a small compliment of fighters. I sort of see it as a cross between a CVE and a Corvette - a REALLY light CVE, or a heavy Corvette. Maybe a fighter-carrying Frigate, but even frigates have phase shields - that's another thing about Privateer - did capships have Phase Shields yet? Anybody? We never saw a big enough capship to tell (presuming the Paradigm ISN'T actually a destroyer).
 
<plug> If it's Paradigms you're wanting, there's no shortage of them in Reckoning, no need to bug Eder about it :) </plug>

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled Standoff).
 
Nice model, I guess I don't have to have him do that then. :p Anyway, I would still like to see the Paradigm appear in Standoff, just because the timeline goes so well with it...
 
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