Man kills attacking leopard by ripping out its tongue
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Maj.Striker
Swabbie
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Ripped out a few domestic cats' tongues have you?
Indoril Nerevar
Spaceman
I used to grab cat's tongues as they yawned, quite comical really...for a 10 year old anyway.
I would have been neat had they been able to capture this happening on film though. It would be a site to see I think.
I would have been neat had they been able to capture this happening on film though. It would be a site to see I think.
If I were placed into such situation like that of the farmer, I would indeed commit self-defense. It's just the (human) instinct - the own survival, without questioning what I have lost on leopard territory. I think it was necessary to survive, but it's nothing glorious with it, in my opinion. I guess it was a case of rough self-defense without room of philosophy. Don't get me wrong, I'm no "veggie", but this action wasn't heroic or splendid as it is commonly thought. And if a trend arise, which consists mocking (unrelated phrase, because I speculate that at least 50% of people in their infant phase had mocked certainly an animal, mostly in a harmless way, I suggest) of domesticated ones (I refuse to say animal), then we are nothing more than a heap of lousy degenerated apes. Sorry, just rant. Natural born reaction of mine towards such kind of topics. 
criticalmass
Vice Admiral
If you want to talk about really big cats, nothing beats a Liger. Anyone still in the game, or can I take the chips home now?
If anyone's interested: Ligers are lion/tiger crossbreeds. The one in the picture is called Hobbs (haha, yes) and lives in the Sierra Safari Zoo in Reno. More info about these guys (although no mention of Kilrathi traits): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger
If anyone's interested: Ligers are lion/tiger crossbreeds. The one in the picture is called Hobbs (haha, yes) and lives in the Sierra Safari Zoo in Reno. More info about these guys (although no mention of Kilrathi traits): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger
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Dyret
Super Carrot!
That's an intresting crossbreed, indeed. Malar, what does being a "veggie" have to do with being nice to domestic animals? I consume more meat then most other people, but that doesnt make me a "crazy nazi kitten impaler" like Porthos. 
"Hey, Frank, I'm kinda hungry."
"Me too. Let's grab mr. Smith's cat on the way back."
"Hey, Frank, I'm kinda hungry."
"Me too. Let's grab mr. Smith's cat on the way back."
Hail the big cats!
That's a relative splendid sight! Relative, because of their unnatural origin (= among other possiblities like the use of gene labors, forced crossbreed, geographically unusual encounters of different races). Which leads often to sterility. Sadly they aren't therefore a natural evolved species. A species which could have appeal some of the advances in being upright walking and envy-worth inclination of hunting down some homo sapiens predecessors in order to prevent just the worst mistake of evolution.
PS: Hm, after looking of some pictures of the 'Ligers', I have the bad feeling, that they are fully covered with gene-deffects, visible and manifested by their bone structure and proportions...
Cats are simply great. I'm more the dog-type person, but cats are nontheless great (like once more mentioned). I know that's oxymoron, because the Kilrathi were just make to appease Chris Roberts allergy based hatred, insubtle said.
criticalmass said:
That's a relative splendid sight! Relative, because of their unnatural origin (= among other possiblities like the use of gene labors, forced crossbreed, geographically unusual encounters of different races). Which leads often to sterility. Sadly they aren't therefore a natural evolved species. A species which could have appeal some of the advances in being upright walking and envy-worth inclination of hunting down some homo sapiens predecessors in order to prevent just the worst mistake of evolution.
PS: Hm, after looking of some pictures of the 'Ligers', I have the bad feeling, that they are fully covered with gene-deffects, visible and manifested by their bone structure and proportions...
Cats are simply great. I'm more the dog-type person, but cats are nontheless great (like once more mentioned). I know that's oxymoron, because the Kilrathi were just make to appease Chris Roberts allergy based hatred, insubtle said.
Because vegetarians - mostly, not at all - fool their own need of proteins and vitamines (like vitamine B2). Some of them don't really care ecological issues and wellfare of the fauna and are only trendy hypocrites. Therefore I mentioned this, to avoid being connected with them. And no I'm no member of any ecofascist party, only my English sucks in resulting that I appear radically.Dyret said:
Maj.Striker
Swabbie
Banned
criticalmass said:
I'd take a saltwater croc over those bad boys...
Edfilho
Cry some more!
Poor Leopard. What a horrible death. At least the guy was saving his ass, it wasn't hunting or some other stupid thing like that.
BTW, I think a Shotgun or the machete would have been bad ideas, because the cat was probably on top of the guy, and he prolly didn't have space to shoot or hack at the attacker.
BTW, I think a Shotgun or the machete would have been bad ideas, because the cat was probably on top of the guy, and he prolly didn't have space to shoot or hack at the attacker.
Edfilho said:
I totally agree.
But if I remove the anthropocentric principle of ones' survival, the death of the leopard is a shame. If I would be the farmer, I would reconsider my balance between economy and ecology. Was it necessary to have a farm in the wild lands? I'm alive, but shouldn't I make a dignified funeral or I give the corpse at least to a science motivated museum (not for the lesser joy of the public)? Otherwise, I have to admit that I sometimes did the mistake to project my values/ethic/moral on everybody.
Maj.Striker
Swabbie
Banned
HAHAHAHAHAHA! That's hilarious. Yes, let's ask a 73 year old Kenyan farmer about his view of his current balance on economy versus ecology. Perhaps you could discuss quantum physicis with him as well. I'm pretty sure that the only thing he's concerned with is:
1. Killing that leopard before it killed him
2. Doing a good enough job farming so that he pays all the bills he has and feeds his family.
I'm sure he would be quite willing to leave probably the only farmland he's ever known and move somewhere else because of the danger to the wildlife near his farm.
1. Killing that leopard before it killed him
2. Doing a good enough job farming so that he pays all the bills he has and feeds his family.
I'm sure he would be quite willing to leave probably the only farmland he's ever known and move somewhere else because of the danger to the wildlife near his farm.
cff
Kilk'dymga'qith laq Ik'vikvi
Malar said:
"fool their own need of proteins"? What is that supposed to mean?
And I couldn't agree more with Maj.Striker. As much as I love animals I definitely wouldn't spend a millisecond considering its fate when attacked by one. But I started to wonder who would be the first person to say bad farmer, why did you kill that poor animal.
Excuse my freaky-fairy-ideals.
Yes, you show that in detail what I had meant with the anthropocentric principle of the farmer's survival. Sometimes, situation (most time) and mentallity (luxury) of people around the globe can't provide such ideals.
That's just me. Experience it different, experience it malarific!
Bad grammar, but I meant it that the easiest way to nourish ourself optimally is to eat flesh. That's how we evolved at last. Mayhaps there will exist other ways in an idealistic future to gain such kind of proteins. Yes, some vegetables can have them also. Damn flesh-eating conflict. After my own opinions I must become a vegetarian but the personal habit stands against it - hm, I'm therefore hypocritical.
Yes, mayhaps one of my schizophrenic selves (there exists to many viewpoints, which I fail to gather in one definite consistent move) would do the same like the farmer.
What I meant at last - this was to me an action of necessity for someone self but nothing glorious to pretend. Like hunting for the own survival in ancient times.
Maj.Striker said:
Yes, you show that in detail what I had meant with the anthropocentric principle of the farmer's survival. Sometimes, situation (most time) and mentallity (luxury) of people around the globe can't provide such ideals.
Dyret said:
That's just me. Experience it different, experience it malarific!
cff said:
Bad grammar, but I meant it that the easiest way to nourish ourself optimally is to eat flesh. That's how we evolved at last. Mayhaps there will exist other ways in an idealistic future to gain such kind of proteins. Yes, some vegetables can have them also. Damn flesh-eating conflict. After my own opinions I must become a vegetarian but the personal habit stands against it - hm, I'm therefore hypocritical.
cff said:
Yes, mayhaps one of my schizophrenic selves (there exists to many viewpoints, which I fail to gather in one definite consistent move) would do the same like the farmer.
What I meant at last - this was to me an action of necessity for someone self but nothing glorious to pretend. Like hunting for the own survival in ancient times.
Quarto
Unknown Enemy
I daresay you don't get much more glorious than that - given that human beings are clearly not designed to win in unarmed combat against leopards or other large cats, for a 70 year-old to kill a leopard with his bare hands is pretty damn impressive.Malar said:
Either I don't understand what you're saying, or you don't understand logic - since when does the necessity or unnecessity of an action determine whether this action is notable or not?
Also, why do you keep using the word 'anthropocentric'? This is utter nonsense. The guy didn't fight to survive because he was human - he fought to survive because he was alive and wanted to stay that way.
