IGN counts top 100 games of all time

On the plus side, the guy who wrote the awful Arena non-review for Gamespot got fired in some big internet scandal. The wags are angry about what this means for "internet journalism", but I'm pretty happy about being able to visit Gamespot again.
 
I am seriously surprised - no WC? Tough.

I'm not surprised. Wing Commander has made plenty of such lists when the subject really was "best games of all time." IGN does this same countdown every year though, and it's very heavily influenced by the big games of the last few years with a handful of token Marios and Zelda-types thrown in.
 
that list sucks. Even if I like the games in it, the order is all wrong, and many great games are missing.
 
It's not possible to make such a list that will appeal to everyone... but Wing Commander (I) *absolutely* should be on any 'most important games' list. It's the game that changed the industry into what we know it as today...
 
What are the details on this?

The internet is raging that he was fired because he wrote a bad review of a game Gamespot was advertising... but as far as I can tell, his entire schtick was to write bad reviews of games to stir up arguments in the first place - and he wasn't enough of a writer to pull that off in the first place.

Now, I know it's downright un-Christian of me to revel in another man's suffering... but I can really only add that no matter what happens, I do sincerely hope that, somewhere, somehow, he able to make it through all this and then be run over by a truck.
 
Now, I know it's downright un-Christian of me to revel in another man's suffering...

Hardly. I see this as karma. I sent the guy an email about his terrible review of Arena using rather colorful language and he replied to me something along the lines of "I don't know what you're talking about."

He was just not a good human being and certainly nothing on the internet was improved by his existence. I can say that about pretty much all the reviewers on Gamespot though; remember the Halo 3 review you pointed out? Ugh.
 
Somewhere, in the distance, the notes of a solem bugle float buy. Another cold, gray day affirms the misery felt by the gathered few as each raindrop strikes the muddy ground.

Some words are said, some memories recalled, and in the end, several eyes fix their gaze upon a casket as it enters the final refuge of mother earth.

No, we shall not here from IGN guy. Sadly, he didn't make it. Another victim of a seamingly senseless sequence of events that leave all but the most sinister among us in quiet contemplation. Why is the world so cruel? Why, indeed.

In the end, all of the gathered are comforted by one fact: at least it was over fast. IGN guy never saw that truck...
 
Jeff G from Gamespot wasn't very good. But he was definitely fired for the wrongest reasons.

GameSpot has explicitly said they did not fire him for the review thing. That just feeds the internet chaos even more, but I really doubt that was it. The guy's been there more than ten years. He's had lots of controversial reviews. I've met him before in person, and he just comes off as an abrasive jerk. I'd say it's much more likely that he's just been rubbing people the wrong way for a long time, and this was a last straw, if it had any effect at all.
 
I don't think that there are so many games that are better than Ultima 7.
I'd say U7 beats any JRPG, for instance.

YES, THANK YOU.

Anyway, the most aptly named reviewer over on IGN is Stephen (Steven?) Butts. Yes, Butts. He was a guy who imagined a typo in UFO: Aftermath and based his entire negative review off of expounding it.

The aliens in the game were called the Reticulans, but somewhere he thought he saw the 'Ridiculans', and made fun of it every other sentence. The worst part is that after I e-mailed IGN to set the record straight in a calm manner, Butts e-mails me - running his mouth like an insulted child. Completely unprofessional and immature. I haven't returned to IGN since.
 
YES, THANK YOU.

Anyway, the most aptly named reviewer over on IGN is Stephen (Steven?) Butts. Yes, Butts. He was a guy who imagined a typo in UFO: Aftermath and based his entire negative review off of expounding it.

The aliens in the game were called the Reticulans, but somewhere he thought he saw the 'Ridiculans', and made fun of it every other sentence. The worst part is that after I e-mailed IGN to set the record straight in a calm manner, Butts e-mails me - running his mouth like an insulted child. Completely unprofessional and immature. I haven't returned to IGN since.

I'm not the kind of guy who likes to feel good by hating all the internets and the cool kids, but I really think all major gaming news sites are crap. Gamespot, IGN, 1Up, they all suck really bad. Your example is not a freakish occurrence, I've actually come to expect that kind of crap from those sites. I'm not even going to mention the terrible forums and regulars. The sad thing is that Gamespot was pretty reliable a few years ago. They had news and reviews that mattered. Not anymore.

I find all my general gaming news in places like Evil Avatar and the Penny-Arcade forum (which is full of great people, at least in the Games & Tech forum). They're faster and more informative.
 
Please tell me that list is a joke. "Starfox" and "Pilot Wings" are on there and Wing Commander isn't? "Mario Kart".. are you kidding!? If anything "Donkey Kong" should be up there instead. Those are games I HAVE heard of... There are some good choices on there, and others I would agree with and was surprised to see on there at the same time. There were other games that weren't even vaguely familiar even though my brother and I subscribed to Nintendo Fun Club then Nintendo Power non-stop for years and poured over it from cover to cover. What a joke.
 
Hey. HEY! It isn't the best game, but YOU DO NOT KNOCK STAR FOX. It played a big role in getting me into space games, I played 64 to death (no seriously, it was unhealthy)... the games thereafter were all disappointments for not flying as well.

Wing Commander has shown me that there's a better way to fly, but I might not've cared if not for SF64. Even now it holds a place in my heart that still needs satisfied at least once a year.

(And really, what DID you expect? They're console oriented, and they were naturally going to include games from still-running franchises. It's called catching the deadpan idiot audience, and it worked- they know people like us are too smart to care unless we get a higher up spot anyways, and we'll whine and whine about "that game" not deserving a slot above ours.

I wonder if we could really have been objective had WC made it in. You want my vote?)
 
Hey. HEY! It isn't the best game, but YOU DO NOT KNOCK STAR FOX. It played a big role in getting me into space games, I played 64 to death (no seriously, it was unhealthy)... the games thereafter were all disappointments for not flying as well.

(And really, what DID you expect? They're console oriented, and they were naturally going to include games from still-running franchises.
I agree that StarFox is a good game, I've played it too and think it worthy of making the top 100 list. I was just surprised to see it there and not Wing Commander. Wing Commander has several console games and the franchise is still running with Arena. Also, Pilot Wings!? I played that game, but don't see what the big deal with it is.
 
I just wonder how much Nitendo paid them to put EVERY SINGLE (i think) Super Mario game on the list

Also WHERE THE HELL IS PONG???
 
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