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Well, you got the basics right. The hashisheen (yes - assassin is not the only word that we got from their name
) were a rather secretive group that existed around the time of the crusades. They did use drugs to get into a religious "experience". In fact, they were on drugs while attacking, which gave them quite a reputation - they weren't bothered by pain and pretty much always killed their target or died trying. Notably, they weren't too bothered by what faith their target followed, and most of their targets were in fact Muslims.This group was eventually wiped out... they didn't last all that long, because nobody likes drug-crazed assassins
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Aries
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Re: I am surrounded by Republicans...
and that's bad because..............?
no, the reason we MIGHT attack Iraq (if Saddam gets his ass in gear and realize it would be in his best interest to comply with the UN sanctions, there will be no war) is cause Iraq has violated the UN resolutions and the punishment for said violations is military force.
so we should just let people attack us and get away with it? no. and by attacking, we are letting our enemies (and future enemies) that the US won't become a push-over country
well, that's your opinion
add on to that a president that understands that to take up arms and make war is sometimes necessary and you would have it correct
we've been on the road to WW3 ever since WW2 ended. peace ain't always the best way. take hitler for example. do you think that the best way would've been to negotiate with him instead of going to war?
by attacking our enemies, we are preventing them from attacking us as strongly as they would've been able to had we not attacked them. and as i said before, war is sometimes necessary.
how long must you shield your eyes from the truth that war is sometimes necessary?
being the only remaining superpower and one of the few countries with guts enough to step up and take over the responsibility of enforcing UN resolutions, since the UN can't do that for itself.
as for the master race mentality, yes many americans are showing this, because many americans haven't gone outside the US.
as for taking over the world, i don't think that will happen as long as the US has a democracy. Germany didn't have one and that is one reason why they almost got away with it.
and as for the US getting hit, some would say that happened on this damn near insignificant date September 11, 2001. but if were smart and deal with groups or countries that would do that to us again before they can strike, it won't happen again.
well, WTF do you say we do? everyone shake hands and be friends and such that wouldn't even happen in a Barney & Friends episode? news flash buddy, there is this thing called the real world that isn't as nice and pretty as your imaginary one. yes, we are making enemies, but better to make them now so we know who they are instead of waiting for them to attack for us to find out who they are. and for the last time, peace is good most of the time, but there are certain times that war is necessary
because not everyone agrees with everyone else, and that disagreement causes conflict
and that's bad because..............?
no, the reason we MIGHT attack Iraq (if Saddam gets his ass in gear and realize it would be in his best interest to comply with the UN sanctions, there will be no war) is cause Iraq has violated the UN resolutions and the punishment for said violations is military force.
so we should just let people attack us and get away with it? no. and by attacking, we are letting our enemies (and future enemies) that the US won't become a push-over country
well, that's your opinion
add on to that a president that understands that to take up arms and make war is sometimes necessary and you would have it correct
we've been on the road to WW3 ever since WW2 ended. peace ain't always the best way. take hitler for example. do you think that the best way would've been to negotiate with him instead of going to war?
by attacking our enemies, we are preventing them from attacking us as strongly as they would've been able to had we not attacked them. and as i said before, war is sometimes necessary.
how long must you shield your eyes from the truth that war is sometimes necessary?
being the only remaining superpower and one of the few countries with guts enough to step up and take over the responsibility of enforcing UN resolutions, since the UN can't do that for itself.
as for the master race mentality, yes many americans are showing this, because many americans haven't gone outside the US.
as for taking over the world, i don't think that will happen as long as the US has a democracy. Germany didn't have one and that is one reason why they almost got away with it.
and as for the US getting hit, some would say that happened on this damn near insignificant date September 11, 2001. but if were smart and deal with groups or countries that would do that to us again before they can strike, it won't happen again.
well, WTF do you say we do? everyone shake hands and be friends and such that wouldn't even happen in a Barney & Friends episode? news flash buddy, there is this thing called the real world that isn't as nice and pretty as your imaginary one. yes, we are making enemies, but better to make them now so we know who they are instead of waiting for them to attack for us to find out who they are. and for the last time, peace is good most of the time, but there are certain times that war is necessary
because not everyone agrees with everyone else, and that disagreement causes conflict
Pardon my French, but if that's the reason that we're going to war (wich i know it isn't), then tell your liberal wacko friends TO QUIT THEIR NATURALISTIC BITCHING AND LET US DRILL IN ALASKA, so war won't happen. But I know it's not the case. Aries I couldn't agree with you anymore. You got a Republican (I presume) friend in me.
pygmypiranha
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I don't like your tone, but I'll answer that at least: we already are drilling in Alaska. So my "wacko" friends as you called them, failed in their mission to try and preserve the wilderness.
Alright this is very true.
A word to everyone. I need not reply further and add more fuel to the fire of this argument. Everyone has an opinion and I respect everyone's opinions on this issue. I don't want to get into a fight with everyone. Certainly something needs to be done about the situation in Iraq I just ask why now and why not more peacefully...? I hope that in the end we reach a more rational less expensive conclusion to this problem.
I am going to leave it at that because it's pointless trying to debate when I feel so outnumbered on this issue. I feel as though everyone is so passionate about war and killing. As a film major I have seen the videos of countless atrocities. I have witnessed the suffering and gore that these kinds of wars bring on. God help the people that are about to be put under our guns and god help the ones that die on that desert sand. So many of you are eager to go to war. Do not preach what you do not practice. Do not preach about needing war... no one needs such a thing. No one should ever need such a thing. I don't wish war on anyone. I've never been through a war, but I have seen the hardships of such things...and I never want to deal with those images again.
Our government is so eager to goto war...I think it would be a lot different if our government was on the front lines with the rest of our military. It would certainly give them a different perspective and would definately make them a heck of a lot less eager to enter this mess.
WildWeasel
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We can take you!
WildWeasel
Spaceman
Dude, don't mock my grapes. (Oh, I just know that people are going to misinterpret that one...)
WildWeasel
Spaceman
I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that...
WildWeasel
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I think I'll go to sleep instead. That sounds like more fun.
Phillip Tanaka
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Tell you what. Convince me that Saddam Hussain, and if you like Osama bin Laden want peace, and I may change my mind on the war.
Phillip Tanaka
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Maybe. But everyone's demanding America to make peace with Saddam and bin Laden. I don't think they would be interested in peace if Powell offered a camel orgy. Okay, seriously, does anyone think either Saddam or bin Laden would be at all interested in peace?
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