I can never forget Red Baron by Sierra that game kicks ass in a slow plodding biplane kinda way. I have Jane's fighter anthology which is pretty decent as well as Jane's WW2 fighters, beautiful game. Honorable mentions go to Lucasarts for the XWing Tie fighter series and EF2000. Going back the old school, Falcon 3.0 was killer in its day and further back, Chuck Yeagers Air Combat Flight Simulator. I hear IL-2 is good but I havent played it yet since I have a new computer that one is on my list. As far as the ones to stay away from: HIND by novalogic, Sabre Ace (UGLY!) and any from the Jetfighter series. Do any of you remember Battle of Britain: Their Finest hour? You know, by Lucasarts? It came out before Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. Cool stuff used to play on my 286 with an EGA monitor! Ancient history to think that my computer now has 100 times the power now hehehe.