boringnickname
Rear Admiral
I was very negative towards the Wing Commander movie, but recently watching it again.. let me just say I am way more favourable to it.
I think "Transformers" is what changed my mind. Boy, Transformers 3 has the third most successful opening of all time.
Fuck me. OK, I haven't seen it, but I've seen first part. That movie was one of the biggest trash heaps I've ever seen. And this from someone who collected the toys as a kid.
You know, I like a good action flick as as as everybody else, but Transformers lacked exactly that. it was full of ridonkulus American Pie style humour (pissing robots, jokes about masturbation.. heya!) RIDICULOUS drama at the dumbest moments - the music when Bumblebee was captured - God, one would think you're watching a movie about the Nanking massacre or something.
And again, man, was the humour bad in Transformers. That special agent was just beyond annoying, as was the fat hacker ("Wolverine! You got that, ha ha, Wolverine!") Ugh. Who writes this crap? At this moment I was just ashamed for the film makers themselves. You know the sinking feeling in your belly? There is this great German word "fremdschämen" for this, look it up. This is exactly how I felt.
Not to mention their very own Jar Jar Binks - I am talking about that annoying small "cute" Decepticon robot who hacked into the government computers.
You know, the movie would have been good if it were just robots fighting each other for two hours straight. Pure action and nothing else. I would be fine with it. But no, they had to spice it up with trash humour of the lowest kind and some very bad acted drama. There wasn't actually much action in this, and when it was on screen, the scenes were pretty bad. Many times I couldn't tell what robot did what, because they just looked like giant trash cans when they fought. I swear, the sequence where Michael Jackson transforms into a robot in "Moonwalker" (1988!) was a lot "cleaner" and looked better.
I just can't understand for the life of me why this dreck is so successful.
Oh and have I mentioned that I almost puked watching this film? Literally. The cuts were so hectic I thought I would badly mess up the carpet. This from someone who can play most first person shooters without a hitch. And I watched it on a 14 inch CRT TV! How can people leave the cinemas alive after watching Transformers?!
There is a great review on IMDB about this:
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There have been a lot of bad movies out there, but this one goes above and beyond. It's almost as if they had made a study out of what kind of visual and aural stimuli would create the most unpleasant direct effect in the viewer's brain and put it on the screen.
So it's not bad because the plot is dumb, or the acting is wooden, or whatever. It's bad in the same way certain sounds grate on you, or the way that flashing lights can induce seizures in some people.
Say what you want about Bay, he's invented an entirely new category of bad film. It couldn't have been easy. It's not simply a movie you dislike, or a movie that seems stupid or that offends your taste. It actually makes you feel physically ill.
Someday someone will make a worse movie, but it probably won't be possible until we learn more about how the brain works. ---
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Man, I want the 80s and 90s back. The action films of these decades were pure masterpieces compared to this dreck. Something like "Red Sonja" is high art compared to today's movies. Hell, Missing in Action with Chuck Norris is more intelligent entertainment than all the Transformers movie combined.
.. ehm, ok, sorry for the rant, it had to be done. Anyway, recent movies made me look at the WC movie with a different eye. I realize now that it could be a lot alot worse.
Oh and you know what? Dark Knight (yes, the holy one) sucked too. (for entirely different reasons though) Give me Burton's films any day of the week. Maybe I will tear it apart later. Let's just say if I want to watch a Michael Mann film, I would watch a Michael Mann film and not Batman.
I think "Transformers" is what changed my mind. Boy, Transformers 3 has the third most successful opening of all time.
Fuck me. OK, I haven't seen it, but I've seen first part. That movie was one of the biggest trash heaps I've ever seen. And this from someone who collected the toys as a kid.
You know, I like a good action flick as as as everybody else, but Transformers lacked exactly that. it was full of ridonkulus American Pie style humour (pissing robots, jokes about masturbation.. heya!) RIDICULOUS drama at the dumbest moments - the music when Bumblebee was captured - God, one would think you're watching a movie about the Nanking massacre or something.
And again, man, was the humour bad in Transformers. That special agent was just beyond annoying, as was the fat hacker ("Wolverine! You got that, ha ha, Wolverine!") Ugh. Who writes this crap? At this moment I was just ashamed for the film makers themselves. You know the sinking feeling in your belly? There is this great German word "fremdschämen" for this, look it up. This is exactly how I felt.
Not to mention their very own Jar Jar Binks - I am talking about that annoying small "cute" Decepticon robot who hacked into the government computers.
You know, the movie would have been good if it were just robots fighting each other for two hours straight. Pure action and nothing else. I would be fine with it. But no, they had to spice it up with trash humour of the lowest kind and some very bad acted drama. There wasn't actually much action in this, and when it was on screen, the scenes were pretty bad. Many times I couldn't tell what robot did what, because they just looked like giant trash cans when they fought. I swear, the sequence where Michael Jackson transforms into a robot in "Moonwalker" (1988!) was a lot "cleaner" and looked better.
I just can't understand for the life of me why this dreck is so successful.
Oh and have I mentioned that I almost puked watching this film? Literally. The cuts were so hectic I thought I would badly mess up the carpet. This from someone who can play most first person shooters without a hitch. And I watched it on a 14 inch CRT TV! How can people leave the cinemas alive after watching Transformers?!
There is a great review on IMDB about this:
---
There have been a lot of bad movies out there, but this one goes above and beyond. It's almost as if they had made a study out of what kind of visual and aural stimuli would create the most unpleasant direct effect in the viewer's brain and put it on the screen.
So it's not bad because the plot is dumb, or the acting is wooden, or whatever. It's bad in the same way certain sounds grate on you, or the way that flashing lights can induce seizures in some people.
Say what you want about Bay, he's invented an entirely new category of bad film. It couldn't have been easy. It's not simply a movie you dislike, or a movie that seems stupid or that offends your taste. It actually makes you feel physically ill.
Someday someone will make a worse movie, but it probably won't be possible until we learn more about how the brain works. ---
Source
Man, I want the 80s and 90s back. The action films of these decades were pure masterpieces compared to this dreck. Something like "Red Sonja" is high art compared to today's movies. Hell, Missing in Action with Chuck Norris is more intelligent entertainment than all the Transformers movie combined.
.. ehm, ok, sorry for the rant, it had to be done. Anyway, recent movies made me look at the WC movie with a different eye. I realize now that it could be a lot alot worse.
Oh and you know what? Dark Knight (yes, the holy one) sucked too. (for entirely different reasons though) Give me Burton's films any day of the week. Maybe I will tear it apart later. Let's just say if I want to watch a Michael Mann film, I would watch a Michael Mann film and not Batman.