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CMDR_Scotty

CMDR_Scotty

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Hello all,

not sure if I'm in the right part of the forum, if not so, pls move it.

I'm looking for Wing Commander Ships to print and build up a fleet step by step covering all era's.
Thanks to Thingiverse I already got quite a collection of STL files together.

Just.. not every vessel is to find.

Missing:

WC1
Terrans:
Venture, Exeter, Drayman, Sleipnir

Kilrahtis:
Salthi, Jalthi, Krant, all cap & support ships

WC2
Both: space stations

Terrans: all fighters aside Broadsword
all cap & support ships aside Concordia

Kilrathi: entirely Missing, afaik

What do I hope for

A suggestion how to create them partly myself.
I'm a noob if it comes to 3D CAD and got an arrow in my knee, but I'm willing to try.

A kind soul which might already got some of this together.

I would even try attaching paper models together to 3D scan 'em...

Any chance to reverse engineer egosofts XSP ship files to something usable for converting to STL?!

Thoughts, comments , help?

All welcome

Regards,
OScotty
 
I would check for the author's permission, but it's not very hard with blender to export to STL. You can import any 3DS model and do so.
 
tarsus said:
I would check for the author's permission, but it's not very hard with blender to export to STL. You can import any 3DS model and do so.
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Thanks, had come that far by my research last 2 days, too. 😉

The point is, majority of published vessels are WC3/4/P or Priv1/2.

WC1 only the terran fighters and the Claw.
For Kilrathi ships, iirc, I found Salthi, Dralthi,Darket, Paktahn, Kamrani (WC 3 Corvette) and Hvarkann Dreadnought (seen if you loose in WC3) as STL.

For the XSP ships, I ll contact the creator, guess its best solution, indeed.


On the other hand.. any recommendations for 3D tools to create 'em myself?
As said would give it a try, just will start at beginner level.. ^^
 
CMDR_Scotty said:
Hello all,

not sure if I'm in the right part of the forum, if not so, pls move it.

I'm looking for Wing Commander Ships to print and build up a fleet step by step covering all era's.
Thanks to Thingiverse I already got quite a collection of STL files together.

Just.. not every vessel is to find.

Missing:

WC1
Terrans:
Venture, Exeter, Drayman, Sleipnir

Kilrahtis:
Salthi, Jalthi, Krant, all cap & support ships

WC2
Both: space stations

Terrans: all fighters aside Broadsword
all cap & support ships aside Concordia

Kilrathi: entirely Missing, afaik

What do I hope for

A suggestion how to create them partly myself.
I'm a noob if it comes to 3D CAD and got an arrow in my knee, but I'm willing to try.

A kind soul which might already got some of this together.

I would even try attaching paper models together to 3D scan 'em...

Any chance to reverse engineer egosofts XSP ship files to something usable for converting to STL?!

Thoughts, comments , help?

All welcome

Regards,
OScotty
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I'll be straight with it, if @Klavs81 gives the OK for it, I've got pretty much all of these missing models in .obj or .dae here, which I converted from his files as part of making the Homeworld 2/Remastered Wing Commander mod. But these are his files, thus the tag.

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In addition to the ships shown in the folder list, I've got all these listed in this quick guide for the mod: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1177630694

And, yes, printed Wing Commander fighters look good.

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Go for it. Just please don't sell them, they're for the community. It'll happen anyway but I'm just asking here.

The reasons I'm selling the Redux'd models is to make it slightly more painful for them to wind up getting sold on Shapeways or wherever. If you paid $20 for something you might hesitate to sell them for yourself. Plus my daughter is aware that we're putting them up to pay for her medical bills, she loves helping me put them up to "sell them" because usually when we sell one she gets a treat that the models "paid for." She's 7 and she knows what a UV map is, scary smart kid!

All flimsy philosophy but there it is.
 
CMDR_Scotty said:
Thanks, had come that far by my research last 2 days, too. 😉

The point is, majority of published vessels are WC3/4/P or Priv1/2.

WC1 only the terran fighters and the Claw.
For Kilrathi ships, iirc, I found Salthi, Dralthi,Darket, Paktahn, Kamrani (WC 3 Corvette) and Hvarkann Dreadnought (seen if you loose in WC3) as STL.

For the XSP ships, I ll contact the creator, guess its best solution, indeed.


On the other hand.. any recommendations for 3D tools to create 'em myself?
As said would give it a try, just will start at beginner level.. ^^
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For WC3, you can find the meshes in Wing Commander Saga's files. For 1/2, the files I have from Klavs are a bit older than the ones he's put on HangarB, though (except for the Rapier II series I bought from there), and they're the result of a weird workflow that would make the ghosts of Ada Lovelace and Alan Turing rightfuly curse me (they weren't made with game integration in mind then), so I cannot guarantee they'll be printed nicely compared to his the new ones, especially considering the quite large poly count some of them had (the joke was that a single of his fighters ingame was bigger than some entire mods).
 
FekLeyrTarg said:
The Privateer 3D archive contains most of the ships and stations from WC2:

Privateer 3D Archive - Wing Commander Encyclopedia

www.wcnews.com www.wcnews.com
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I wouldn't recommend it, they're not designed for it. This was at the very beginning of 3D design and they were intended for very small prerendered images. I don't think it's even technically possible, a lot of them are essentially collections of basic shapes rather than single meshes.
 
Klavs81 said:
The redux'd models are lots lower in polycount, more emphasis on better UV and PBR workflow :D

I'm sorry for all the hastle, I was learning!
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You kiddin'? That taught me a lot about tinkering with 3D models and reminded everyone in the Homeworld modding community that Wing Commander always has the bestest best models and ships even now. Plus, your stuff gave the WC1/2 shipset a really cool common identity.
 
FekLeyrTarg said:
The Privateer 3D archive contains most of the ships and stations from WC2:

Privateer 3D Archive - Wing Commander Encyclopedia

www.wcnews.com www.wcnews.com
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Been a while - and it feels like Necro-ing my own thread .. - hadnt time to look around, tbh .. Life happens.
Hope y'all are good!

BtT:
That one helped me a quite lot. Got me a good amount of Stations and Vessels.

Credits go to all those who made these.
I m not sure whom of the creators are around here to name aside of Klavs81, FekLeyrTarg and Tolwyn, but - I name those I know
Those are K.O.S.H. Sartha and Balogt ( fyi they provide XSP ships for X3 based on Wing Commander), as well as Dropforge, Tyrellohr ( Cults3d - thx for the Venture WITH Turrets 😉) if I missed someone - Sorry, you're meant to appear here too !
My thanks also goes to Cybot078 for the provided models. The additional capships for Steltek gives the race more depth and are looking awesome - at least in the viewer so far. 😃

Lets sum it up:

WC1 Era
Confed capships: Venture, Exeter, Drayman, Bengal class - STL format ✅
Confed fighters: Hornet, Scimirat, Rapier, Raptor - STL format ✅

Kilrahti capships: Dorkir, Lumbari, Ralari Snakeir, Supply depot, Starpost - STL format ✅
--> Missing: Fralthi, Sivar
Kilrathi fighters: Salthi, Dralthi MK I, Jalthi, Krant - STL format ✅
-->Missing: Gratha

WC 2 Era
Confed capships: Clydesdale, Waterloo, Gilgamesh, Concordia, Depot station, Space Station - STL format ✅
Confed fighters: (Super)Ferret, Epee, Rapier, Sabre, Broadsword, Crossbow, Morningstar - STL format ✅

Kilrathi capships: Dorkathi, Kamekh, Fralthra, Ralatha, Ralatha2 (Thrakhaths Flagship in cutscenes), Depot, K'tithrak Mang - STL format ✅
Kilrathi fighers: Sartha, Drakhri, Strakha, Jalkehi, Grikath, Gothri, Bloodfang - STL format ✅
-->Missing: Jrathek

between WC 2 to WC 3 - at least I believe to put it there:
Confed capship: Wake class ( TCS Tarawa ) - STL format ✅

WC 3 / 4 Era
Confed capships: Clarkson, Caernaven, Southampton, Tallahassee, Yorktown, Behemoth, Vesuvius - STL format ✅
Confed fighters: Arrow, Hellcat IV, Thunderbolt, Excalibur, Longbow, Bearcat - STL format ✅

Kilrathi capships: Kamrani, Ralarrad, Fralthi Mk II, Hvar'Kann - STL format ✅
--> Missing: Sha'kar, Ralaxath, Bhantkara
Kilrathi fighters: Ekapshi*, K'Ha'Haf**, Darket, Dralthi IV, Strakha Mk II, Paktahn, Vaktoth, Bloodfang Mk II, Sorthak - STL format ✅
* atmospheric fighter ; **concealed as rock - both be seen around Kilrah

Blacklance fighter: Dragon - STL format ✅

UBW capship: Durango - STL format ✅
UBW fighters: Banshee, Bearcat, Avenger - STL format ✅
--> Missing: Vindicator - the model I found still has too large gaps to print.


Privateer 1 - STL format ✅
CapShips: Drayman, Refinery Station, Roidbase (also Pirates), New Constantinople Base
Common ones: Tarsus, Galaxy, Orion, Centurion
Confed : Stiletto, Broadsword, Gladius, Paradigm, Perry Naval Station
Universal vessel : Talon - (un)friendly by faction ;)
Kilrah : Kamekh, Dralthi VII, Salthi

Steltek: completely ✅

Next step will be convincing a friend to print me those time over time so I can post the results. 😁


Best regards
Scotty
 
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CMDR_Scotty said:
Vindicator - the model I found still has too large gaps to print.
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I think I recall seeing Sean Murphy - one of the original Origin 3D artists - offer to upload the high resolution Vindicator 3DSMax files but no one took him up on it. His website is down but he had some models there, maybe someone saved it? If he is still around it wouldn't hurt to ask him, from is posts he seemed pretty cool and liked sharing his work.
 
3ry said:
I think I recall seeing Sean Murphy - one of the original Origin 3D artists - offer to upload the high resolution Vindicator 3DSMax files but no one took him up on it. His website is down but he had some models there, maybe someone saved it? If he is still around it wouldn't hurt to ask him, from is posts he seemed pretty cool and liked sharing his work.
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He offered, and we of course said we could host anything he had. :) I just don't think he got around to converting the Vindicator. His Shrike is at https://www.wcnews.com/news/2006/09/29/shrike-three-you-re-out
 
Steltek stl stuff
 

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