Talk:First Battle of Kilrah - 2667

Maybe it's time that I correct the flaws in this article. I realize it has a lot of reworking that needs to be done. Question: Should we change the title to "Raid of Kilrah" or something? I know this was officially classified as a raid rather than a battle. (Not much of a difference, but regardless, what sounds more appropriate?) -Aeronautico

I've been referencing this article as Raid on Kilrah in my edits. I don't know why it's titled like this. The thing in question is repeatedly and often referred to as the "Kilrah raid". - Bob 10:39, 21 August 2010 (CDT)

I concur. Will move in a few minutes unless anyone objects? - Wedge

Done. - Wedge

Per LOAF and my conversation on #wingnut. We were talking about the name of this inuniverse when we really couldn't find on specific name. We then started talking about a standard for un-named battles. That way every mission series in the games don't become "Battle of Tamayo" or "Battle of Torgo" and so on. --Dundradal 19:17, 21 August 2010 (CDT)

Here's our convo to get an understanding of what we were talking about...

[19:51] <@LOAFB> Is it called that somewhere?
[19:51] <+Dundradal> I don't think so
[19:51] <+Dundradal> can start looking
[19:52] <+Dundradal> FA Bear calls it "the raid to Kilrah"
[19:53] <+Dundradal> later it's "After the raid on Kilrah the ship had been laid up for a year"
[19:53] <+Dundradal> but that's not exactly him calling it that
[19:53] <+Dundradal> if it should be called anything
[19:53] <+Dundradal> I'd say
[19:53] <+Dundradal> Tarawa Raid
[19:54] <+Dundradal> or
[19:54] <@LOAFB> First to Kilrah
[19:54] <+Dundradal> Tarawa Raid on Kilrah
[19:54] <+Dundradal> yeah I was thinking that
[19:54] <+Dundradal> but it might be confusing
[19:55] <@LOAFB> That's true
[19:55] <+Dundradal> guess the name stands
[19:55] <@LOAFB> Maybe there should be a set standard for un-named battles
[19:56] <+Dundradal> for things like game mission that happen in systems?
[19:56] <+Dundradal> so that every single system doesn't become "Battle of Blackmane"
[19:56] <+Dundradal> Battle of Ariel
[19:56] <@LOAFB> Yeah
[19:56] <+Dundradal> Battle of Freya
[19:57] <@LOAFB> I could see it having the year, especially
[19:57] <+Dundradal> because I think that is a good idea
[19:57] <@LOAFB> 2667_Raid_on_Kilrah
[19:57] <+Dundradal> yeah
[19:57] <+Dundradal> more like index entries
[19:57] <+Dundradal> instead of trying to make lofty names
[19:57] <+Dundradal> "Ambush at Jugara"
[19:58] <+Dundradal> damn you Chris Blair
[19:58] <+Dundradal> this would be easier without his Kilrah raid
[19:58] <+Dundradal> Kilrah Raid - Strike Force Valkyrie - 2667
[19:59] <+Dundradal> Kilrah Raid - Temblor Bomb - 2669
[19:59] <@LOAFB> Yes, but without that raid we'd be slaves in a Kilrathi mine.
[19:59] <@LOAFB> I also wonder which thing they're considering the First Battle of Kilrah.
[19:59] <+Dundradal> true
[20:00] <+Dundradal> huh?
[20:00] <+Dundradal> you mean in relation to Confed or overall?
[20:00] <+Dundradal> in Kilrathi history?
[20:00] <@LOAFB> From the WCSO fiction, cadets are told to rerun the 'Second Battle of Kilrah'
[20:00] <@LOAFB> Which is apparently the WCP end series
[20:01] <+Dundradal> I would have to say Tarawa
[20:01] <+Dundradal> the tbomb isn't much of a battle...but I can see it being argued and recorded that way
[20:02] <+Dundradal> do we know the date of the Tarawa raid?
[20:02] <@LOAFB> There really isn't any substitute for experience. All you can do is practice on the simulator until you get your chance. For the next week, I'm told you will all put in thirty hours on the simulators re-flying the 'Second Battle of Kilrah'. I suggest that you use that time to explore the limits of the ship. I wish you good luck and hope to see you all on flight rosters throughout Confed soon.
[20:03] <@LOAFB> I don't think we have an official specific day, but it can be calculated with some work.

"Emperor Joor'nad nar Kiranka"....is that the name of the current Emperor or a previous Emperor? -Aeronautico

He's the emperor throughout the entire war. --Dundradal 08:14, 22 August 2010 (CDT)

Cool. Maybe I could start an article on the emperor now that we know his name, if that's cool with everyone, that is. Thanks for verifying this. -Aeronautico