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| Did a major revision of this article today completely cleaning up the early sections and rewriting several sections. The end with FC I'm still filling in. I had to take some time away from missions so I figured why not here. I've also learned that the wiki gets mad when articles get to be close to 32k because it is afraid some browsers will not be able to edit it. This current revision is 30k, but it's almost done and then hopefully won't have to be edited again. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 00:56, 15 August 2010 (CDT)
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| Is it okay to expand Confleet to Confederation Fleet? Those less familiar with the novels, such as myself, may find the abbreviation confusing. - Wedge
| | BTW, is this still a work-in-progress? I only edited the ConFleet spelling as Bob mentioned above and tidied his info box a little. - Wedge |
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| I did my best to review the article, I'll have another look when you, or whoever, finishes the conversion. - Wedge
| | Actually it's both ways in FC, Confleet and ConFleet. It seems to depend on who's speaking (Confed or Landreicher) and it still is WIP. I only get the rough text up and haven't really looked back at it. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 13:17, 16 August 2010 (CDT) |
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| : Thanks for the review...although I actually didn't want it reviewed yet as I am still working on it. I'd prefer waiting until an article is done before you go through it. Otherwise you may edit something that I completely miss later on and it makes one part of the article make no sense or sound stupid. As for Confleet, it's used in the novel text and I'd like to keep it that way in the article. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 10:53, 15 August 2010 (CDT)
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| :: Sorry. I wasn't aware that it wasn't finished until I got to the end. It's a bloody long article! - Wedge
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| ::: Hehe yeah I know...it looks like it's going to be the article to test what it takes to break the wiki! It's already mad that it's so close to 32k. Do you see the message at the top of the page when you edit/preview that the article is getting close to that size and may not display correctly in some browsers? I'm guessing it only has to do with editing the page, so hopefully it won't be an issue when it's done. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 11:01, 15 August 2010 (CDT)
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| :::: It's currently (August 2010) the longest article in the WCPedia. - Wedge
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| ::: Here's the message - "Warning: This page is 30 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections." - Dund
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| :::: Yes, I've seen that before. I haven't had any problems relating to it yet, as far as I know. - Wedge
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| :::: I wonder if this is actually an issue we need to worry about. Looking over the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Longpagewarning Wikipedia] and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Longpagewarning MediaWiki] pages seems to suggest that it really isn't that big a deal, and I can't find anything in HTML references which suggest there is a limit on the <textbox> tag (which is what you do the editing in). I think it may just be pointing out that certain minor or older browsers may not be able to handle more than 32768 characters in a text box - a browser-specific issue, in other words. - Wedge
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| :: It's actually spelled [[ConFleet]], at least in [[False Colors]]. I don't remember offhand what [[End Run]] calls it. The WCIV novel and most of [[Action Stations]] calls it simply the Fleet. - [[User:Bob McDob|Bob McDob]] 06:13, 16 August 2010 (CDT)
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| ::: I thought it that the F should be a capital, too. - Wedge
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| Yeah I just noticed one of your edits that would have caused an issue, albeit minor. "Nargrast" is the moon of Vaku VII, it's also an unofficial name because the survivors call it that.. In FC it's official designation is "Vaku VIIa." I noticed you removed the "a" just be careful with that stuff before you edit to make sure it's really a mistake and not on purpose (as was the case here). --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 14:42, 15 August 2010 (CDT)
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| : Yeah, it wasn't terribly clear from the article. What's the relationship between VII and VIIa? - Wedge
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| :: Vaku VII is a planet in the Vaku System where the Karga was derelict. Vaku VIIa is a moon of Vaku VII. You should grab the novels you can find them fairly cheap on amazon. I'll clean up the wording to make it clearer. I'm just trying not to get too wordy about Goliath in sections that don't apply to Bear. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 17:06, 15 August 2010 (CDT)
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| ::: Stupidly, Amazon doesn't have an Australian site. I've only ever ordered once from Amazon - it's more trouble than it's worth. Fortunately, my prizes from last year included False Colours. My point here is that if the intended meaning not clear to the reader, then something needs to change. At any rate, this produced the discussion we're now having, so the article can be improved even further. (: - Wedge
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| BTW, is this still a work-in-progress? I only edited the ConFleet spelling as Bob mentioned above and tidied his info box a little. - Wedge
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| Actually it's both ways in FC, Confleet and ConFleet. It seems to depend on who's speaking (Confed or Landreicher) and it still is WIP. I only get the rough text up and haven't really looked back at it. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 13:17, 16 August 2010 (CDT)
| | Also, Wedge, I think it would be best if we wait for an "all clear" before moving in to review articles. As I'm still making changes on this and don't really want it edited until I've finished it myself and so things like Vaku VII/VIIa don't occur. If I hadn't been still editing the article that may have gone unnoticed for years. --[[User:Dundradal|Dundradal]] 13:46, 16 August 2010 (CDT) |
BTW, is this still a work-in-progress? I only edited the ConFleet spelling as Bob mentioned above and tidied his info box a little. - Wedge
Actually it's both ways in FC, Confleet and ConFleet. It seems to depend on who's speaking (Confed or Landreicher) and it still is WIP. I only get the rough text up and haven't really looked back at it. --Dundradal 13:17, 16 August 2010 (CDT)
Also, Wedge, I think it would be best if we wait for an "all clear" before moving in to review articles. As I'm still making changes on this and don't really want it edited until I've finished it myself and so things like Vaku VII/VIIa don't occur. If I hadn't been still editing the article that may have gone unnoticed for years. --Dundradal 13:46, 16 August 2010 (CDT)
