The better Captain...

frostytheplebe

frostytheplebe

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I was just watching some of the old Star Trek TNG Episodes (God these are great!!) Specifically, the Episode "Best of Both Worlds."

I was just wondering who everyone thought was the better captain? Picard is a seasoned captain, famous for his 20 year mission on the U.S.S. Stargazer. He helped end a Civil war with the Klingons, and has been credited with saving the Federation more then once. However he did lose two ships under his command.

Riker has proven himself a capable captain. Under his command, the original Borg incursion which cost Starfleet over 40 of its ships, was halted. In a sort of side Universe, he managed to bring piece between the Romulans and the Federation. Until the ferengi intervened he was winning a war game against the Enterprise using a 90 year old Constellation class starship (U.S.S. Hathaway). He destroyed a So'na battleship and crippled a second.

So the final question is, all this in mind, who is the better Captain, Riker or Picard?
 
depends on the mission
during peace time away from any border areas probably Picard
during actual war or missions near borders with potential hostile races I'd rather serve under Riker. Picard always lets the ship get shot too many times before fighting back, and in starfleet even when the shots don't penetrate the shields consoles still blow up klling people in the process
 
In the final episode of TNG, Riker comes to the aid of picard with the then 20 year later version of the enterprise, modified to be a warship, that scene was simply fantastic.

Riker is full of surprises, picard always plays it safe.
 
Riker was the only one to realize that Troi's only real use on the ship was her looks- Picard actually thought she had value as a counselor :p

But I have to second the opinion of Kirk as the better captain. Who else can knock you out with a single shoulder chop...?
 
Although Picard is considered the "Next Generation", I find more fun watching the older Star Trek with Kirk. One but can't help to remember how crappy most if not all episodes on the show were, especially every fight scene. But they're hilarious to watch. I mean come on haven't you guys saw the "Cable guy"!!! Oh BTW FYI didn't George Takei become a captain too? I bet he drove all the starfleet guys wild.... << Pun on recent "Out of closet" news :) .....But Yea Wing Commander ROCK ON!!!! and Star Trek just keep KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!!
 
JasonRocZ said:
Although Picard is considered the "Next Generation", I find more fun watching the older Star Trek with Kirk. One but can't help to remember how crappy most if not all episodes on the show were, especially every fight scene. But they're hilarious to watch. I mean come on haven't you guys saw the "Cable guy"!!! Oh BTW FYI didn't George Takei become a captain too? I bet he drove all the starfleet guys wild.... << Pun on recent "Out of closet" news :) .....But Yea Wing Commander ROCK ON!!!! and Star Trek just keep KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!!
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Dude, come on, crappy? Lets keep in mind what they were working with back then! Models, firecrackers and cardboard. No computers, no imaging, no nothing, so that assesment is really unfair.

Since we've seemed to broaden the topic passed the original two captains I was talking about, in my opinion, the best captain... sorry, I'd have to say perhaps Commodore Matthew Decker. (The Doomsday Machine)
 
frostytheplebe said:
Dude, come on, crappy? Lets keep in mind what they were working with back then! Models, firecrackers and cardboard. No computers, no imaging, no nothing, so that assesment is really unfair.
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Look at star wars. The special effects there are from the same time frame, and they still look good today. In my opinion ANH looks better than the first 2 LotR movies. Star wars actually revolutionized special effects.
 
Since I don't like playing the "lets name the guest star on Star Trek to measure my e-penis with" I'll go ahead and say Picard. Its a little unfair since I haven't read any of the books where Riker is in command of the Titan, but theres a damn good reason why Picard got the Enterprise for so long.

(On the other hand, Archer may be my favorite. He's easily likeable, gung-ho and seems a lot more "average joe" than the rest of the famous captains.)
 
LeHah said:
(On the other hand, Archer may be my favorite. He's easily likeable, gung-ho and seems a lot more "average joe" than the rest of the famous captains.)
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Out of all the captains, Archer is my favorite. Not only was he more relaxed HIS crew didn't have to wear spandex jumpsuits, they got cool uniforms as well as a cool ship.
 
Haliwali said:
Look at star wars. The special effects there are from the same time frame [...]
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Um, no, they weren't.

ST TOS aired from 1960 to 1963.

The first SW movie was released in 1977.

Big jump in technology in 14 years, not to mention budget issues (as in, ST had issues, SW had a budget :p ).
 
JasonRocZ said:
You do have a point Frosty...There was no computer imaging help....So I guess it wasn't that bad
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I'm not disputing that the SFX from that time period were cheesy, but they were all they had at that point. Just like in 30 years someone will say the same about Enterprise i bet. :p

Think about it, digital imaging may have progressed far enough by that point to be like a 3-D effect where the show we're watching is actually happening around us. Well... maybe not, but its cool to imagine, and hey anything is possible:

"I am a Klingon warrior, and a Starfleet officer. I have piloted starships through Dominion minefields, I have stood in battle against Keldons twice my size, I courted and won the heart of the magnificent Jadzia Dax, if I can do those things... I can make this child go to sleep!" -Worf
 
Death said:
Um, no, they weren't.

ST TOS aired from 1960 to 1963.

The first SW movie was released in 1977.

Big jump in technology in 14 years, not to mention budget issues (as in, ST had issues, SW had a budget :p ).
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My bad. I thought ST was made around the same time, but I guess I was wrong.
 
Whoops. I was in error about when ST was on the air. ST TOS aired from 1966 to 1969.

Still, though, it's not quite "same time frame", and the budget aspect most certainly applies. Paramount also didn't have what was effectively an in-house SFX company (like ILM for the SW movies).
 
that Ransom guy from Star Trek Voyager, in that episode where Voyager comes across another Starfleet ship which is using some lifeform to supercharge its engines to get home faster, that guy wouldve done anything for his crew.
 
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