Sukhoi - some nice video of Jets

Cyberion

Master of Orion
I guess you will like that video from international exposition MAKS 2005. Plus some other random videos, which i found on the site of Sukhoi. Nice jets, nice movies.

Online video at google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7908977996459602882&q=label:crash


Direct download link (click on image if download doesn't start)
http://www.sukhoi.org/gallery/?id=1384&gallery_id=99&cur_gallery_id=99


Video of Su-35
http://www.sukhoi.org/files/video/video-Su-35.avi?r=99&gallery_id=99&cur_gallery_id=99
 
What about Su-37?

What about it? Russia isn't even building it, even for export, and only two prototypes were build, then converted into SU-35s, of which Russia only has about one squadron.

The SU-35 is about par with the F-15C, but outclassed by the F-22.

What happened to the rough-field capability that Russia used to have? The older MIGs had screens over the intakes to provide permanent FOD protection for gravel fields and low level flight. That capability was one of the best features on the Russian fighters. Also that fighter lacks the Thrust-Vectoring that makes it a 37, it looks more like a 35.
 
Are we talking about how many of those jets russia has? or are we talking about jet's specs?

Personaly i was showing off the things that this jet can do. And not how many russia has. I do not want that this thread will be another - Russia suxxx, F-22 roxxx thread. I want this thread to show off the videos of what the jets are capable of.

http://www.propro.ru/flankers/eng/Su-37.htm

Please, let's stick to the topic.
 
From what I could find a SU-27, the oldest model of the Flanker family is
35 million USD, while the SU-30 costs 33-45 million USD. This is significantly more than a 30 million dollar (US) F-15C, but alot less than the 361 million USD F-22.
 
Well F-22 stealthy, Su-37 not stealthy, so i would assume that this is the main price difference about them. The estimated price is about 50mills as far as i could find out.

The bad thing about F-22 is that nowadays radars with which Su-35 equiped, as well as Su-37 prototype radar are capable of spotting F-22 with not problems.

And the bad thing about Su-37 - it was a "commercial" version of Su-35 and a single existing prototype #711 crashed in 2002. As far as I know the program was frozen and incorporated into Su-35. No Su-37 so far :(
 
The F-22 is a far more limited production run than the other fighters mentioned, so of course the per-unit cost is going to be higher. Simple "economy of scale" issues.
 
Cyberion said:
The bad thing about F-22 is that nowadays radars with which Su-35 equiped, as well as Su-37 prototype radar are capable of spotting F-22 with not problems.
See, this just doesn't seem... oh, what's the word... true. In fact it strikes me as being... false.

Not that I would call such an upstanding citizen such as yourself a liar, no sir. But maybe the dude who said it to you so you could repeat it. He's a liar.

I mean, even if we ignore the huge gulf which typically separates the performance of Russian hardware from the pimp hype of Russians, I'm still going to have to give Lockheed Martin the benefit of the doubt on this one. Sukhoi no doubt builds a perfectly serviceable airplane, but they cater to an entirely different class of customer, and they're way out of their depth when it comes to heads-up competition.

No aircraft in existence or current development actually wants to engage an F-22, least of all some gimmicky budget bird primarily destined for C-grade Asian air forces that still think canards are way neato.
 
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