Group Reading: Freedom Flight 2022

EmuMusicFan

2nd Lieutenant
Going by earlier dates, Thrakhath had only become the crown prince at the most a year prior to Firekka, due to his father's execution; his elevation was brand new.

I do not think that Thrakhath was ever shown as being respected by anyone, and by referring to him as 'young' prince or 'young' crown prince is factually correct, in comparison to Gilkarg, and would immediately bring to mind his predecessor who was much more accomplished than Thrakhath, as well as the over-reaction of the emperor. Ralgha could not have been the only Kilrathi who could see the way the Kirankas were mismanaging the empire and the use of 'young' to describe Thrakhath is the perfect way to show social disrespect without reprisal because the statement is technically correct. If we saw other nobility in the novel, they would probably use the same term, as the breakdown of social decorum among the highest levels of the imperial court started years before with the lack of discipline of the Kirankas in Action Stations.

The same could be seen in the present day any time someone is introduced as the 'new' manager; they will still be the 'new' manager until another is hired, but the tone in which they are referred to is where the insult would come in.
I believe it is only appropriate when the speaker is an elder or at least about the same age as Thrakhath. The new manager is "new" because this person was not a manager when birth, but has recently assumed this position. But Thrakhath had been a Prince since birth.

Well... if Thrakhath can be objectively described as young at this time, the side note could be that Kilrathi's twenties is not considered old. Combining the multiple depictions of the book, Ralgha did not look like a youth, so it's not like he would be much younger than Thrakhath, thus he was not likely to be 15 years old.

In short, I think it is the following.

1. if Ralgha subjectively evaluated Thrakhath as young, then it was appropriate only if Thrakhath was not obviously elder than him.

2. If Thrakhath was objectively evaluated as young for the age, then Ralgha didn't look like a younger Kilrathi.
 
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EmuMusicFan

2nd Lieutenant
ASSIGNMENT for Freedom Flight, Chapter 9

DISCUSSION POINTS:

* Where do you think Paladin's confidence came from when he entered alone a cell that held a Kilrathi warrior who had been starving for two days?
* What mistake did Sol Station make?
* What is the difference between liege lord and over lord?
* What is the full name rule of Kilrathi here?
* What did the Confederation's subtle attitude toward K'Kai tell us?
* Where did K'Kai's negotiating style begin?
* “Quite the—opposite,” he replied. “I wondered why the Prince had chosen your world for the Sivar-Eshrad. Now I know. Once he had Firekka in his claws, he could bring in his house agents and proceed to accrue a private fortune from this—” he raised the cup a little “—and all without the Emperor ever knowing he was doing so!” What could we know from this?
* “I begin to see why my lord Ralgha brought us to this pass,” he said, as he followed her example. “The Prince should not have done that. It is dishonorable; it violates the Warrior’s Code to hide behind hostages! He will cause the fury of Sivar to follow him and his blood to the eighth generation!” What could we know from this?

EXTENDED DISCUSSION:

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EmuMusicFan

2nd Lieutenant
* “Quite the—opposite,” he replied. “I wondered why the Prince had chosen your world for the Sivar-Eshrad. Now I know. Once he had Firekka in his claws, he could bring in his house agents and proceed to accrue a private fortune from this—” he raised the cup a little “—and all without the Emperor ever knowing he was doing so!” What could we know from this?
* “I begin to see why my lord Ralgha brought us to this pass,” he said, as he followed her example. “The Prince should not have done that. It is dishonorable; it violates the Warrior’s Code to hide behind hostages! He will cause the fury of Sivar to follow him and his blood to the eighth generation!” What could we know from this?

My opinion is that from these two points we know, Thrakhath, and maybe his entire family's factual reputation has some problems even in the empire.

The fact that Kirha trusted so directly what K'Kai the stranger and a Firekkan said probably indicates that he was not surprised that Thrakhath did such things.

Do you think this was common among clans that were not directly loyal to the imperial family?


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Kelly_

Spaceman
From Chapter 9...
* Where do you think Paladin's confidence came from when he entered alone a cell that held a Kilrathi warrior who had been starving for two days?
Paladin would have been part of the intelligence group studying Kilrathi, and would have been coached on their body language to know whether a threat was imminent, in addition to the armed guards monitoring the situation just outside the door.

* What mistake did Sol Station make?
We do not really know whether a mistake was made; looking at Kirha's internment as part of an intelligence operation instead of merely shipping him off to a prison camp, neglecting to instruct him on the use of human facilities and testing his willingness to eat non-preferred foods could have been setting Kirha up to be more favorably disposed to working with Paladin when he arrived... a good cop, indifferent cop situation.

* What is the difference between liege lord and over lord?
From Kirha's point of view, a liege lord has unlimited control over your life, and an overlord has only control that has been ceded by the liege lord, but then again, Kirha is the idealized Kilrathi. We do not see others with the same high view of honor and absolute devotion to one's superiors in the rest of their society, see the majority of the Ras Nik'hra's crew at the start of the novel, as well as the rebellion being fostered on Ghorah Khar.
 
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